Education is becoming costly with every passing day while the quality is not improving.
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- Pro asserts that for at least a part of his resolution, that the quality of the education is not improving
- The quality of education is improving
- Thus, Pro is incorrect about this topic
- Social
- Emotional
- Mental
- Physical
- Cognitive development
- Definition of education :https://www.huffpost.com/entry/what-do-we-mean-by-a-qual_b_9284130#:~:text=A%20quality%20education%20is%20one%20that%20focuses%20on%20the%20whole,life%2C%20not%20just%20for%20testing.
- Number of people earned a degree
First , my opponent conceded that in the US some prerogative education quality is not improving but deteriorating .Thus changing the topic from US to worldwide.
- Pro did not source his Huffpost article, thus his entire argument could be nullified(If he used logic to prove all 5 are essential, then I take it; but no, it is just a "He said it" argument)
- Even then, education without those 5 criteria can still have quality, even if it has less, it is not zero.
- More of us are learning more than ever before
- This is improvement in quality thinking that having more accessible education and having, on average, more knowledge per person, are both good qualities.
- Con concludes, Pro did not prove his claim.
- An improved quantity of people getting a share of goods is a good quality
- More people are getting education and people are generally learning more academics
- His "Huffpost argument" is still just a "He said it" argument and he used no logic to justify it
- Academic-only education still has quality, and more academics in learning is better than less, granted if none of those 5 core criteria were present either way
Think about those days you were having a camp with your friends. Those days are indelible for me . Those days are unforgettable for you.
- Pro dropped some points. Look above.
- Academic education is quality education, even if it has less quality than one with mental, cognitive, physical, etc. integrated within the curriculum
- More of us are learning more things every day we go, and that is the result of:
- More accessible learning
- More expertised learning(learning more)
- Both are existing qualities(Quantity can be a quality in some cases and denying it would be false dichotomy).
- Pro did not prove that equal values of education is lost through the trend of history.
- Education is becoming of more quality through the trend of history.
- As a result, Pro did not prove what he is to prove.
- Vote Con.
I rethought the debate over and I realized Pro didn't really stress the impacts and numbers. Con noted millions gained education while Pro only focused on how US had worsened quality, and Asain had slightly worse pressure. Not sure how bad that is compared to going from zero to hero. So I think Con wins here.
Arguments:
One thing to get aside, quality and quantity, one might be tempted to side in favor of Pro due to Con's "misunderstanding" of the resolution. The problem with that. Con clearly establishes and demonstrates that a large number of people are going from zero education to education, which is a rise in education. Zero to not zero is obviously an improvement, thus proving Con's goalpost, I find Pro's focus on first world education interesting whenever the resolution had no such qualifier. Essentially - going from fulfilling none of the categories from Pro's definition to even one, is an improvement. I, therefore, grant the point to Con
Argument: I'll cover one aspect of the debate first, to get it out of the way, particularly since it had no mention in the resolution: Covid 19. Pro mentioned a two-prong argument: Pro-Covid-19, and during Covid-19. This matter was discussed in R1 by both participants, but was dropped by both in ongoing rounds. I'll consider it a dropped argument by both without ffect to my vote since it was not a related matter in the resolution. Pro's argument continued on the path he first launch by resolution, that cost of education is increasing while quality is decreasing. Con attempted to turn the debate to a matter of comparing quantity of education, i.e., more people in the world have access to education than before, and attempted to declare that, as a result, the quality of education is improving. Pro successfully defended the resolution that the two terms, quality and quantity, are not synonymous, and cannot be construed as such. Meanwhile, Pro demonstrated that there are five features of quality of education, and that overall, those quality factors are, in fact, decreasing. Con offered a UNESCO article to support his claim, but while the UNEXCO article featured greater access to education, it did not demonstrate that the inherent quality of that education was improving, and in fact, demonstrated that girls relative to boys do not even have equivalent access, let alone equivalent quality. Con's rebuttal fails. Points to Pro.
Sourcing: Pro's sourcing supported the argument of costly increase, but quality decrease, such as the source: HuffPost, which Con claimed was never cited by pro, but is clearly evident in Pro's R2 argument. By contrast, Con's sourcing poorly supported his argument, such as Con's UNESCO citation, which dismissed the quality of education, and, instead, featured the quantity, which was not the point of the resolution. Points to Pro.
S&G: tie
Conduct: tie
Yes, I read your argument, and found it deficient, as was your sourcing. I spent the time reading through both. My RFD stands.
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>Reported Vote: fauxlaw // Mod action: Not Removed
>Points Awarded: 5:0 (5 points to PRO)
>Reason for Decision: See Vote Tab.
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I'm not completely sure if this is what you did, but please only use the arguments themself to inform your vote, don't change your vote based on other voters takes.
Vote.
bruh DID YOu read my argumenT
Ok then i shift you join pls
Academic instructors are garbage at teaching undergrads. If you're wondering about the deteriorating quality of your education, there's always instructors to blame. IMHO, they need more accountability.
I am Con on the debate, why did y'all shift just before I came here
Then I be con
I would debate, but I agree with a pro. My school is not improving. I am getting the lowest grades I have ever gotten. This is some stupid bullcrap that is happening to the schools right now. Covid 19 ruined this year for everyone, especially students.
right. I think Pro means, "In current trends, quality of education is not improving. Education is becoming costly." But the wording of the resolution can be sneaky semantics -- "while (during) quality is not improving, education is becoming costly with every passing day". Based on pro's torture debate, I heavily doubt he will resort to such semantics.
there is a way to win with this resolution, but I will not disclose it to see what happens.