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#2720

Incest Is Morally Right

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Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

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After 2 votes and with 7 points ahead, the winner is...

gugigor

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Publication date: 01.07.2021 05:48PM
Last updated date: 02.06.2021 08:35PM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 2
Time for argument: Two days
Max argument characters: 10,000
Voting period: One month
Point system: Multiple criterions
Voting system: Open

Contender / Con

gugigor

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Round 1

Jasmine

01.07.2021 06:53PM

Pro

My first argument is biblical.

Jesus had sexual relations with his mother the Virgin Mary. No longer were she a virgin, he pounded her like pound cake. Since Jesus is a demi-god and Mary is a human, their child should be a 1/4 god, right? WRONG, because of the incest, Bob (Jesus's son) BECAME STRONGER THAN GOD ITSELF.

Source: https://jasmine17123.blogspot.com/2021/01/am-bible-fanantic-i-study-biblelogy.html

Because of the incest, BOB became powerful. And because it is in the bible as a good thing, it is not a sin.

I look forward to your response.

gugigor

01.07.2021 06:57PM

Con

Pro's source comes from her own blog, which is severely biased. Jesus has no son named Bob that I am aware of. I ask pro for the passage in the bible to explain this.

Contrary to pro, incest causes inbreeding and is severely harmful to the children. Jesus was basically God incarnate and could probably get away with murder. But us common folks without omnipotence cannot do incest without the consequences. Therefore Pro is wrong and Incest is morally wrong.

Round 2

Jasmine

01.07.2021 08:07PM

Pro

"Jesus was basically God incarnate and could probably get away with murder. But us common folks without omnipotence cannot do incest without the consequences."

The Virgin Mary who's no longer a virgin is a human.

My next point will counter your "harmful" stance. It is a fact that incest will automatically make you a rich and famous individual. This is because the most famous people in history were products of incest and correlation implies causation. Also hooking up with your 3rd cousin is better if you want more kids. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/when-incest-is-best-kissi/

Also, just look up "products of incest" they're so hot!

gugigor

01.07.2021 08:35PM

Con

mmm. Sadly, pro proves his own point wrong. You see, the rich and power is associated with incest. Soon enough, everyone will want to use incest. And those who don't will be separated, disclosed. Just as Jesus is in a league of his own, the rich growing more powerful using incest is just a tool to use for greater economic inequality, and the social problems will result in a world where the rich continue with their orgy while the poor struggle to maintain meaningful relationships, that do not harm their children.

zedvictor4

01.08.2021 10:11AM

#15

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@MisterChris

@Jasmine

I would suggest that Pro's argument was satirical, rather than comedic.......And therefore should be regarded as philosophical.

And Jasmine...I'm already writing a book entitled Bob....So when I'm rich and famous, please don't sue me for breach of copyright.

Intelligence_06

01.08.2021 06:48AM

#14

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@Jasmine

I have a hard time deciphering what Pro is trying to say. I want Pro to give the central information to me, in contentions, what she is trying to make.

Barney

01.07.2021 11:43PM

#13

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@Jasmine

I find a good way to approach biblical comedy, is to start with the bible. Joseph had two fathers and no mother, God committed millions of abortions with the flood (and arguably continues to this day with every failed pregnancy... heck some nutjob conservatives insist any time a woman is not actively pregnant it's exactly the same crime as abortion, so you could have a field day with how many abortions God commits by that insane standard).

There was a grain of something good with the whole God impregnated Mary with himself thing. Which brings to mind something from comic books... In Marvel comics Captain Marvel once got raped and impregnated by the rapist, gave birth to said rapist in a weird paradox; then got kidnapped by said rapist, and Captain America, Iron Man, and all her other friends on the Avengers were just like: "isn't it so romantic?"

MisterChris

01.07.2021 10:44PM

#12

NOTE: Full Forfeitures, explicit concessions, subjective competitions, truisms, and comedy (even if facetious) are not eligible for moderation (barring certain exceptions).

As PRO's args clearly fall under "Comedy," the votes on this debate are not eligible for moderation.

Jasmine

01.07.2021 09:10PM

#11

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@gugigor

I don't like puns. I agree, it wasn't funny. I hope it was at least amusing though.

gugigor

01.07.2021 09:01PM

#10

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@Jasmine

make more puns and make it funnier. I'm a better troll than you man

Jasmine

01.07.2021 08:46PM

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@Theweakeredge

Yeah, this is a joke, why do you ask?

Jasmine

01.07.2021 08:42PM

How do I make another round?

Jasmine

01.07.2021 08:36PM

Shit, there are only 2 rounds.

Jasmine

01.07.2021 08:09PM

How many rounds are there?

Theweakeredge

01.07.2021 07:47PM

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@Jasmine

Those are bunch of fanfiction sites... let me say it again "FAN" (not credible) "FICTION" (literally something be fake, made up) These are not good sources

Jasmine

01.07.2021 07:31PM

More sources, do not look if you're under 18:
https://archiveofourown.org/works/27475855?show_comments=true&view_adult=true#comments
https://archiveofourown.org/works/9618983?view_adult=true
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9781744/1/God-Speed
https://botanistlester.tumblr.com/post/172470090252/the-scrambled-egg-fic-jesus-version (jesus is judas, and mary is jesus (they got it wrong))
https://archiveofourown.org/works/7524811

Theweakeredge

01.07.2021 07:22PM

Is this a joke? Like I'm seriously asking, did I miss something?

Sum1hugme

01.07.2021 06:55PM

Wtf

seldiora

01.07.2021 06:34PM

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@Jasmine

wow, that's an easy topic to lose if you're pro lol

Barney

01.07.2021 11:33PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

The debate wanted to be pound cake, but fell flat like microwave cooked pancakes.

Without a single warrant connected to morality, it falls flat as a serious debate (a forgone conclusion); and without any of the jokes even causing me to snicker it fell flat as a troll debate.

MisterChris

01.07.2021 10:35PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Soooooooooo....

This debate is what Ragnar would call a "foregone conclusion." It doesn't help that all PRO did was troll with their arguments (although it would make an interesting Biblical fanfic, I don't think Jesus pounded anyone "like a pound cake"), hence the conduct point assignment.

On the other hand, CON demonstrated some tangible societal harms with inbreeding... and while his arguments were lackluster at best, that's better than whatever PRO just spat out.