Instigator / Pro
22
1502
rating
40
debates
36.25%
won
Topic
#2770

On Balance, The US Should NOT Tighten Gun Control Policies

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
0
21
Better sources
10
14
Better legibility
5
7
Better conduct
7
2

After 7 votes and with 22 points ahead, the winner is...

Theweakeredge
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
4
Time for argument
One week
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One month
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
44
1706
rating
33
debates
80.3%
won
Description

One of my strongest debate topics I have yet to debate on this site. Burden of proof is shared. Pro will argue US should keep its loose gun control policy, or even loosen it further (if possible). Con will argue for stricter regulations or even ban on gun ownership.

Good luck!

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@Barney
@Theweakeredge

"The same vote would be tolerable if it did not assign points."

Good Idea, I will keep that in mind.

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@Benjamin

It's not a big deal, especially as it did not seek to change the outcome... But please don't do it again. The same vote would be tolerable if it did not assign points.

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@Theweakeredge

I apologize. I am new to debating online, and I am sorry for creating inconvenience. Please forgive me.

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@Benjamin

If you're so confident you can "harm me" than actually make a valid point. Otherwise you are creating needless trouble for our moderators. Which is at the very least a jerk move. Do you know why Debate.org is such a bad site nowadays? Because of a lack of moderation. Moderation is what keeps this site afloat, please refrain from any more immature bouts of "troll voting".

Lmao.
It was obviously a troll vote - I know the system and had I really wanted to harm you I would have made a valid point.

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@Benjamin

Not even going to open the template for this... What's going on to make you cast such an intentionally abysmal vote?

The now deleted vote was as follows, for 7 points to pro...

This vote will most certainly be reported. But that's fine. Here is the RDF:

https://www.google.com/search?q=budgies&newwindow=1&rlz=1C1GCEB_enNO937NO937&sxsrf=ALeKk03PmRmbMEQQKMsi4s-j8Aj62Ppp_Q:1613030678043&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwik8c3Er-HuAhXwkosKHeZUA9oQ_AUoAXoECBAQAw&biw=1280&bih=610

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@Benjamin

I thought at the very least you had a valid reason for voting.... seriously? Are you that sore at our disagreement that you want to include that kind of vote? Wow, I used to have a much higher opinion of you.

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@Theweakeredge

In terms of your observation, I agree that the topic doesn’t bind you to a specific advocacy or particular gun control policy. But it doesn’t stop you from having one if you want to. Some regulations, like universal background checks or training requirements, are fairly easy to defend. But even if you don’t want to have a strict or specific proposal, you can still use examples of gun control policies for which Pro’s arguments didn’t apply. Those would help prove your responses on Pro’s arguments being sometimes untrue of many gun control policies, but without requiring you to make arguments centered around exclusively them.

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@Tejretics

Thanks for the vote and feedback, the reason I was vague is because of the specific resolution - to use a specific example would be ignoring the second observation I made of the resolution. I don't like to make contradictory arguments. I made the basic claim and provided evidence for each argument structure - and those dropped points were irrelevant to the debate. A lot of the structure was because of the specific resolution.

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@Theweakeredge

go ahead and challenge whoever you will.

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@gugigor

There seemed to be a lot of agreement with you, would you care if I were to make a debate: "On balance the US should tighten gun control policies"?

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@gugigor

It might be more interesting to look at the correlation between the amount of gun restrictions and the level of liberty citizens enjoy.

the sourcing is misleading, most of it outdated and not correctly interpreted or just flatly wrong - I look forward to your response Seldiora.

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@gugigor

if you make the debating time a week you got yourself a debate

Yeah, I'm of a similar mind to Ragnar. I've argued for the other side before, but my thoughts about gun control have changed since then, and I find the position of pushing for increased gun control to be a little too weak for me to argue right now.

Good setup.

I'm instantly torn, since I believe both sides are probably correct (some gun laws should be tightened, others should be loosened).

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@gugigor

nah, I agree with you

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@whiteflame
@MisterChris
@Intelligence_06
@Theweakeredge

dare you challenge my well-written essay written from years ago? It may not be as well researched as Smoking Ban, but the kritik here is definitely not as easy...