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Topic
#2787

Resolved: Taiwan is not a sovereign nation

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

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After not so many votes...

It's a tie!
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One month
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
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1436
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debates
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Description

Sovereign Nation: A politically organized group that has superior and above-all power to rule a piece of land, in this case, this piece of land:
http://www.nationsonline.org/maps/taiwan-map.jpg

BoP: shared
Pro: Taiwan is NOT a sovereign nation
Con: Taiwan IS a sovereign nation

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@Barney
@MisterChris

vote pls

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@Crocodile

Gonna have to leave that to the experts, idek how to make a proper vote on this site lol

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@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
@oromagi

vote pls

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@Intelligence_06

No, you didn't define Taiwan as that. See, Taiwan is also a short name for the ROC (from Croc's thing). So essentially Taiwan rules over Taiwan. What you should've done is say: "Taiwan: http://www.nationsonline.org/maps/taiwan-map.jpg". Otherwise, Croc would be perfectly fine saying that Taiwan is the ROC or the government, not the island, because you didn't actually define Taiwan, rather you said that there is a piece of land called Taiwan.

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@BearMan

I did. I said I defined Taiwan as a piece of land, not ROC.

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@Intelligence_06

bruh this was very winnable by you, if you had just said Taiwan ain't a nation, it's an island.

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@Barney

I would probably edit this to “enter this debate for a discussion about Taiwan’s political status”. The network wasn’t good at all when I instigated this so I keyboard-mashed in disbelief and anger, totally unaware that my cursor was hovering on the short descriptions section.

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@Crocodile
@Intelligence_06

The short description currently reads: "yfy fYtiGvygiP*Y9uin*Y&87)*&[}?>":<bUbt^B6)*)&7*()_"

Would you both like it updated to something intelligible?

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@Intelligence_06

That island is probably the only land the RoC has sovereignty over, and it's mostly because the China fears war with the USA or they would have taken over long ago. If I were president I would abandon the RoC, probably negotiate an American acquiescence to a communist takeover of Taiwan in exchange for whatever. The Chinese want it so bad, we should see what it's worth to them. The people of Taiwan are not our people and we don't owe them anything.

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@Intelligence_06

That is not the definition of sovereign. Other states have to recognize it as a separate state with power