Instigator / Pro
49
1485
rating
91
debates
46.15%
won
Topic
#2975

Jesus was a false prophet

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
21
0
Better sources
14
0
Better legibility
7
1
Better conduct
7
1

After 7 votes and with 47 points ahead, the winner is...

David
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
4
Time for argument
One week
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One month
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
2
1483
rating
1
debates
0.0%
won
Description

In this debate, I will attempt to prove that Jesus was a false prophet by Biblical standards. My opponent must prove he was a true prophet.

Rounds:

1. Opening arguments only
2. Rebuttals only
3. Defense
4. Closing argument

I would really like to vote on this debate, but I am in such broad disagreement with David's argument here, particularly in view of my previous commentary #4, and that this is a clear full forfeiture for which others have already voted sufficiently to assure David the victory on that basis, alone. My vote would merely add to my stats without real benefit to David. Sorry, David, but I'm sure you understand my position. I would have really enjoyed having the debate myself. If you want to revisit it, I'd be glad to engage, even though I've offered up one argument, already. I'd really be interested in. your rebuttal. Interested at some point in the future?

It is argued that Matt 24: 34 is a difficult verse to interpret. Yes, it is when one attempts to do so by cherry-picking the verse on its own. But the set up begins verses earlier, specifically at verse 3, when the entire discussion begins at the Mount of Olives, and many signs are given of the [second] coming of the Lord. We still await some of those signs, such as the sun darkening in concert with the moon turning red. Typically, a red moon is caused by a lunar eclipse, the result of being in Earth's shadow, but that is not the only cause of a red moon. It can also turn red when Earth's atmosphere's air molecules scatter blue light more than usual. If that occurs in conjunction with a darkening sun [it can], then we have the sign foretold. Hasn't happened, yet. Other signs are given, that haven't happened, yet, either. It is THIS [that is, that still future generation] the "difficult" verse speaks of, not the generation of the first century C.E.

All the effort of defining the Greek term γενεά (genea), was a red herring argument. As usual, cherry picking solves very little and is the primary reason that some say verse 34 is difficult to interpret. Words mean things, yes, but context, such as including the previous 31 verses to capture the whole story, is just as important, if not more so.

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@PeanutHat

While you've automatically lost at this point due to forfeitures, I'm sure David would gladly do a rematch.

Also you are still free to make closing statements.

Sounds like communism.

He split five loaves of bread and two fish amongst 5000 people.

That's what I call real profit.