Instigator / Pro
42
1516
rating
1
debates
100.0%
won
Topic
#3065

Crosby's: Lily or Camryn

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
18
0
Better sources
12
10
Better legibility
6
4
Better conduct
6
4

After 6 votes and with 24 points ahead, the winner is...

HTHAMES
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Two days
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One month
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
18
1484
rating
2
debates
25.0%
won
Description

There are two Crosby's.....there can only be one

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Pro was the only one that said something.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Pro made the only argument. No sources by either side so it’s tied. Both sides forfeited so conduct tied. S/G to Pro cause they actually typed.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Pro was the only one to make anything that could be construed as an argument related to the res.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

No rebuttal was made.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Do the talking lily

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Argument - Before casting this vote I checked the voting policy on Full Forfeiture.
"Should either side forfeit every round or every round after their initial arguments (waiving is not an argument), the debate is considered a Full Forfeiture, and any majority votes against the absent side are not moderated (a vote may still be cast in their favor of the absentee, but is eligible for moderation to verify that it is justified via the normal voting standards).". https://info.debateart.com/terms-of-service/voting-policy

It seems that even though Pro did submit a very limited round 1 argument, Pro was still guilty of full forfeiture by forfeiting every round there after.
However, Con did not even present a round 1 argument, and did not rebut what little was written.

In any other debate what little was written would probably have resulted in a foregone conclusion for the Con side. But given that "Lily was the most talkative....at first...." defeated anything that Con did not reply to, I guess that seals it.

And the voting policy does stipulate that a vote can be cast even in the event of what would otherwise be a full forfeiture - Pro

Sources - Tie

S&G - Tie

Conduct - Pros conduct was marginally better, at least posting one round 1 argument. Perhaps had it been responded to we would have further correspondence from Pro - Pro