Instigator / Pro
49
1516
rating
1
debates
100.0%
won
Topic
#3066

CAM or LILY

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
21
15
Better sources
14
14
Better legibility
7
6
Better conduct
7
7

After 7 votes and with 7 points ahead, the winner is...

luke
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
2
Time for argument
Two days
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One month
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
42
1484
rating
1
debates
0.0%
won
Description

No information

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Con said, "I don't know Cam well enough to choose".

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Both arguments were not fulfilling their respective BOP. Tied.

Equal forfeiture and no sources.

The only thing is that Pro is more formal in word usage, a desirable attribute. 1 more point for Pro.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Neither of the args given by either side were supported or opposed the res.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Nothing was achieved. .

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Neither established that one was better than the other, though Con did present a semi-kritque before giving it up. Neither presented a second argument and thus - I rule them equal... as Pro essentially concedes that both are the same, and Con questions his own resolution. So tie.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Argument - Con makes a couple of statements: "They are HUMAN. Not objects from a menu.". Nowhere did Pro state they were not human, nor suggest they are objects from a menu and probably does not require enlightening to this fact, and so not a very good argument. Secondly, Con makes an admission: "I don't know Cam well enough to choose". Con has just admitted that Con does not know enough about the subject to debate, and therefore this makes Pros opening statement the more reliable of the two. "I think that they are equally good, they are in ap classes so they are smart and they are personable people.". - Pro

Sources - Neither produce sources - Tie

S&G - Pro remains professional regarding grammar, whilst Con decides that but is spelt buttttttttt, though I realise this is deliberate and so will resist awarding a violation - Tie

Conduct - Both forfeit, so one violation each - Tie

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Both conceded that the characters are equally good then forfeited all Rounds after Round 1