vivian and quinns top secret debate

Arguments: Con rhymed, and I didn't get their argument.

Conduct: Con forfeited, whereas Pro didn't.

Essentially an FF from Con, if you forfeit all rounds after round 1 it's officially FF and Con's R1 was some irrelavant poem/song that verges on plagiarism.

Nothing was achieved.

Pro has an argument without the specification fo a topic agreed upon beforehand, so it would mean virtually nothing.

Con’s “argument” was a poem and it argued nothing against Pro’s anything.

No evidence, adequate presentation, with one of the two insulting and the other forfeiting. This is the most disappointing thing I have seen all day.

Argument - Pro made some pretty good arguments regarding how she would kick his ass and Con made no rebuttals and merely presented a pretty good poem which was nothing to do with Pros argument. Con also made no claims that the debate was not about who would kick the others ass in a fight, so that was pretty poor, meaning the argument must go to Pro - Pro

Sources - Neither produced sources - Tie

S&G - Both appear as literate as eachother - Tie

Conduct - One forfeited, the other called the other a fool, which means one violation each - Tie

Argument: The resolution is quite hard to interpret, but based on Pro's first argument it seems to be some sort of "who would win in a fight" situation. While none of Pro's arguments are consideredly sequitur or substantiated - Con doesn't actually present an argument. So Pro does win the arguments, by default.

Conduct: Pro is being penalized as an entire round is an insult to their opponent.

Con presented a poem about castaways, seemingly unrelated to Pro's argument.