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My Friends Talking Trash About Me in the Restroom; I Should (Nonchalantly) Walk Out of the Stall

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After 3 votes and with 3 points ahead, the winner is...

Undefeatable
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Con: My Friends Talking Trash About Me in the Restroom; I Should Stay in the Stall

Sources are not necessary

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@Undefeatable

Not a clue. He was apparently last online 7 hours ago.

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@Barney

Any idea what happened? Edge usually isn’t the type to forfeit two rounds in a row.

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@Puachu

probably watching with horror

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@Undefeatable

"taking a full 30 seconds to wash my hands"

What are your friends doing in the bathroom?

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@RationalMadman

I understand. I'll keep that in mind.

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@MarkWebberFan

That is revenge then, which I didn't say was important. Payback and retribution are revenge, it's just semantics.

I said that when your bully dominates you by breaking the rules, you need to use the rules to defend yourself. It's not a coward move.

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@RationalMadman

Well, as much as I'd like to appreciate extremely useful advice (especially since your advice is without strings), I am very comfortable where I am. My experiences with bullies occurred in highschool, not college. Had I known that this website existed during my highschool years, I would have wholeheartedly accepted your advice. I forgot to mention that my bully is currently washing cars for a living while I study abroad at a reasonably prominent college/university. Sure, the damage to my high school life was severe; I was incapable of social interaction for a time but nothing defeats the feeling of being superior over your bully in terms of life achievements. That's not to say I'm not interested in revenge. Philosophically, i believe in retributive justice and I am personally looking for payback.

Never ever let anyone treat you like a bitch for too long, too severely. You have ways out almost always, get them caught, be smart.

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@MarkWebberFan

Being a snitch is an underrated overly mocked tactic.

Bait your bullies into bullying you in front of witnesses who will be honest or authority figures and they're fucked when and if they go too far (such as the toilet incident).

Keep a diary/record of all the incidents, don't run to the teacher or campus leader or whatever immediately. Bide your time, wait for them to go too far and they won't touch you again unless they want to risk expulsion.

This doesn't work in super, extreme rough schools but in those places, you indeed can't avoid being bullied and instead need to strategise so your bullies find others easier to pick on.

Well, the debate went slightly technical there. On a non-philosophical note, I do agree that confrontation is somewhat better. Personally, I went "pacifist" with my bullies and I remember sensitive details about being locked in the toilet stall. It was not a good way to experience life. In all circumstances, I think you should always confront and fight your bullies.

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@Theweakeredge

"p1 Humans ought to avoid pain that is not resultant in greater pleasure
p2 Confronting said "friends" from the resolution would result in pain without any greater pleasure
p3 Therefore, Humans ought not confront said friends from the referenced resolution"

On an unrelated note...

p1 Humans ought to maximise pleasure (well being)
p2. Certain actions do not maximise pleasure (well being)
c1. Therefore, humans ought not to do certain things.

Objective morality, incase you didn't get the memo. Thoughts?

"You talking shit behind my back? That really pisses me off." Exclaims Undefeatable while exiting the cubicle.

"You caught us red handed but we caught you with your pants down." Say the fake friends while fist bumping.

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@Undefeatable

Oh friend, no - oh friend the mistake - I will be using sources, lol

There are certain facts that ought to be established, lol