Thank You Bones, for joining this Debate.
I am here today to present my argument as to my thesis on if God exists.
Firstly, let me specify "God". By the word, I mean a metaphysical being responsible for all life on Earth.
Argument 1:
Bible References:
Yes, Yes, blame me for trusting the Bible, but people have been writing this thing for generations, and if God was fake, I don't believe they would go to that much trouble.
Ok, that was a joke. There are many arguments to that that I won't dwell on, but nevertheless, I've made a list of all references from the Bible about if God is real.
Romans 1:20
For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.
Hebrews 11:6
And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him.
Romans 1:18-20
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.
Revelation 4:11
“Worthy are you, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they existed and were created.”
The Bible makes many arguments towards this, and shows a very clear understanding that God exists. Those without Faith won't believe him, those with will.
I admit, this was a bad argument, however, I do hope this next argument stirs you well.
Argument 2:
Our Consciousness:
The workings of human consciousness are similarly miraculous. Like the laws of mathematics, consciousness has no physical presence in the world; the images and thoughts in our consciousness have no measurable dimensions.
Ah yes, the age old question. Where does our conscience go when we die? Does it stay in our body. Perhaps it moves around, haunting people who have oppressed it.
People have tried to solve this problem for decades, but followers of Christianity have a simple solution, the timeless Heaven and Hell.
I mean, it would make sense, right? What other solutions are there?
As it turns out, a lot.
OK, OK, OK, I know I'm being self contradictory here, but there are numerous possibilities about where we go when we die, but these possibilities are the result of Gods, or Goddesses.
TECHNICALLY, this isn't God, but the argument stays the same. Metaphysical Beings controlling where we go when we die.
Other than this...… there's a explanation that I really like:
After death, you continue to exist as the difference you have made in this world. The people whose lives you touched, whose paths you’ve helped guide, and whose minds you’ve changed, carry a bit of you with them.
This doesn't support my argument, and I know you're going to call it out, but I like to think God made it that way. It's a good thought.
Argument 3:
The Universe:
Forgive me for drawing a quote from a TV show, but it's basically my entire argument for this.
Sheldon: Did you know that if gravity were slightly more powerful, the universe would collapse into a ball?
Mary: I did not.
Sheldon: Also, if gravity were slightly less powerful, the universe would fly apart and there would be no stars or planets.
Mary: Where you going with this, Sheldon?
Sheldon: It's just that gravity is precisely as strong as it needs to be. And if the ratio of the electromagnetic force to the strong force wasn't one percent, life wouldn't exist. What are the odds that would happen all by itself?
Mary: Why are you trying to convince me to believe in God? You don't believe in God.
Sheldon: I don't, but the precision of the universe at least makes it logical to conclude there's a creator.
As I said, forgive me, but it does make sense. Using this logic, I've come to the conclusion that God exists.
REBUTTAL FOR THE QUESTION I KNOW IS COMING:
Science: Science is a hard one to rebut. But, I'll draw a quote and a website to answer.
The history of the universe can thus be seen as an endless chain of changes, but Aquinas argued that there must be some transcendent entity that initiated the chain, something that is itself unchanging and that already possesses all of the properties that worldly objects can come to possess. He also claimed that this entity must be eternal; because it is the root of all causes, nothing else could’ve caused it. And unlike all worldly objects, the transcendent entity is necessary—it must exist.
Take note to read the website as well.
Finally, remember I'm new and this is my 1st argument. I bid you well, Bones.
It's amazing we both started becoming active at the same time. I've had 4 debates against you, 1 deleted.
Seriously, I would name you my best friend among this site.
Sorry if this sounded weird, but it's the truth, honestly.
Thank you for making my experience on this site memorable. :D
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Thanks for a good conversation, you’ve really grown as a debater.