Instigator / Pro
21
1731
rating
167
debates
73.05%
won
Topic
#3208

We have no obligation to follow the law

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
9
6
Better sources
6
4
Better legibility
3
2
Better conduct
3
0

After 3 votes and with 9 points ahead, the winner is...

Intelligence_06
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Two weeks
Max argument characters
15,000
Voting period
One month
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
12
1697
rating
556
debates
68.17%
won
Description

Assuming that society exists, disobeying the law is with one's own discretion: whether is to be caught by police, or followed by something that inflicts pain.

Do we, however, have any obligation to follow the law? I say no. However, I simply choose to follow the law because I believe I will be inflicted of less pain, which is a good thing for me. If you don't want to be painful, then my suggestion is to not break the law.

Rules:
-Forfeit=loss
-Insulting=-1
-BoP is shared:
----Pro: We have no obligation to follow the law
----Con: We are obligated to follow the law
Intelligence_06 is Pro.

Have fun!

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@drlebronski

I’m not saying most Americans are ancap. But I am saying that if the typical American is fine with going speeds that they think should be illegal for others to go, that’s hypocrisy. I know the vast majority of Americans speed and are fine with it:

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@RationalMadman

This is the second time you accepted my debate and forfeited. You are literally able to reply comments whilst the period you can reply to this debate. By conduct prescribed by the rules, you have literally lost.

Maybe rearrange your priorities.

Or maybe you should stop accepting debates you will forfeit in. Waiting 14 days is not fun for either party.

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@TheUnderdog

lol provide your data that 99% of americans speed?

theres also so many factors that go into speeding.

just saying people speed doesn't prove that most Americans are anarcho-capitalist.

Good luck convincing the 99% of Americans who willingly speed that they should go the speed limit. Americans prefer their freedom to government rules more frequently than the average global person.

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@TheUnderdog

Don't accuse me of things you have absolutely no proof of.

I can indeed support speeding fines and law enforcement while having done it in the past, nonetheless I myself do not and never intend to.

The only time it's a remotely morally grey area is in a scenario where absolutely everything about the area and time of day makes it blatant that no human being or vehicle (animals maybe) will get in the way but even then the speed limit absolutely must be legally obeyed.

The odds are extremely small. Not everything that has a less than 1% chance of killing you should be banned. But given that you probably speed, if you wish for others to follow that law, your probably a hypocrite.

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@TheUnderdog

Breaking that speeding law can lead to you breaking that murder law.

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@Intelligence_06

Some laws you should follow; some I don't care if you do. Anti murder laws are laws you should obey. However if you want to break the law by speeding, I don't care.