THE CORONAVIRUS IS A FRAUD
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CORONAVIRUS: an infectious disease
fraud: not real, staged.
- THE CORONAVIRUS IS A FRAUD
- Dr.Rajeev Fernando, infectious disease physician, director of the division of infectious diseases at Stony Brook Southampton Hospital in New York, and the first U.S. doctor to investigate the virus in China.
- Carol Winner, public health expert who has worked with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the National Institutes of Health for more than 30 years.
It has been known for at least 150 years that germs do not cause disease. This was proven by a biologist by the name of Antoine Bechamp.
Disease is unnatural and doesn't occur by itself in nature.
That's why coronavirus mostly occurs on cruise ships, Nursing homes, Theme parks and fast food outlets.
There are not thousands of different diseases.
There is no such thing as viruses.
I know, Because I have worked in an electron microscope unit where I learnt how to use all the equipment.
The average age of people dying from so called "COVID 19" is 79. 5 years of age which is the exact same as the average life expectancy. Thus, There has been no decrease in life expectancy which means nothing has changed.
Before I begin, I must make it known that my opposition's argument is completely plagiarized from debate.org. However, though the argument is not original, it came from a pseudoscientific lad stranded in the wasteland of debate.org, as such it isn't very good.
- Dr.Rajeev Fernando, infectious disease physician, director of the division of infectious diseases at Stony Brook Southampton Hospital in New York, and the first U.S. doctor to investigate the virus in China.
John Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center map, World Health Organisation, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control and Worldometer all measure over 4 million deaths from Covid 19.Â
The JAMA Internal Medicine reported that Covid-19 cases could be six to 24 times higher than what had been reported.An analysis by The New York Times in August found that the death toll was higher than average from March to Julyâabout 200,000 more deaths than expectedâeven though the official death toll due to Covid-19 was about 140,000 at that time.Based on CDC data, there have been about 279,700 more deaths than would normally be expected through October 3, 2020. Given that the official death toll for Covid-19 in that time period was 200,499, the pandemic could be causing even more deaths than are officially being reported.The non-profit organisation Global Change Data Lab noted that there were 260,000 excess U.S. deaths from March 1 to August 16 compared to the average of the five previous years, although the official Covid-19 death toll was 169,000 in that time.
That's why coronavirus mostly occurs on cruise ships, Nursing homes, Theme parks and fast food outlets.Unsourced.Â
The syllogism my opponent has adopted is something like the following.Âp1. The average age of people dying from Covid is 79.5p2. The average life expectancy is 79.5c1. Thus there is no decrease in life expectancy.ÂJust because the average life expectancy didn't drop, doesn't mean the virus isn't real. This would be like saying "the average age of death is 79.5 therefore anyone who crashes their car aged 79.5 didn't die".Â
An A-Z list of viruses.
Appeal to personal experience. Â
Germ theory denialism is the pseudoscientific belief that germs do not cause infectious disease, and that the germ theory of disease is wrong. In the final decades of the 19th century, Robert Koch conclusively established that a particular germ could cause a specific disease. He did this by experimentation with anthrax. Using a microscope, Koch examined the blood of cows that had died of anthrax. He observed rod-shaped bacteria and suspected they caused anthrax. When Koch infected mice with blood from anthrax-stricken cows, the mice also developed anthrax. This led Koch to list four criteria to determine that a certain germ causes a particular disease. These criteria are known as Koch's Postulates and are still used today. Integral to these criteria is Postulate #3, âThe disease must be reproduced when a pure culture is inoculated into a healthy, susceptible host.â Even today, with all of the advances in modern science, it would be impossible to prove that a specific germ is responsible for a disease without the use of laboratory animals.
- Dr.Rajeev Fernando, infectious disease physician, director of the division of infectious diseases at Stony Brook Southampton Hospital in New York, and the first U.S. doctor to investigate the virus in China.did you not see my argument??? They are deceiving you.
John Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center map, World Health Organisation, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control and Worldometer all measure over 4 million deaths from Covid 19.Âlies
The JAMA Internal Medicine reported that Covid-19 cases could be six to 24 times higher than what had been reported.An analysis by The New York Times in August found that the death toll was higher than average from March to Julyâabout 200,000 more deaths than expectedâeven though the official death toll due to Covid-19 was about 140,000 at that time.Based on CDC data, there have been about 279,700 more deaths than would normally be expected through October 3, 2020. Given that the official death toll for Covid-19 in that time period was 200,499, the pandemic could be causing even more deaths than are officially being reported.The non-profit organisation Global Change Data Lab noted that there were 260,000 excess U.S. deaths from March 1 to August 16 compared to the average of the five previous years, although the official Covid-19 death toll was 169,000 in that time.the first study is liberalist lies.
as for the second itsn just a coincidencethe CDC is not to be trusted
The syllogism my opponent has adopted is something like the following.Âp1. The average age of people dying from Covid is 79.5p2. The average life expectancy is 79.5c1. Thus there is no decrease in life expectancy.ÂJust because the average life expectancy didn't drop, doesn't mean the virus isn't real. This would be like saying "the average age of death is 79.5 therefore anyone who crashes their car aged 79.5 didn't die".Âstrawman
An A-Z list of viruses.wrong thats lies they r all the same germs,
Germ theory denialism is the pseudoscientific belief that germs do not cause infectious disease, and that the germ theory of disease is wrong. In the final decades of the 19th century, Robert Koch conclusively established that a particular germ could cause a specific disease. He did this by experimentation with anthrax. Using a microscope, Koch examined the blood of cows that had died of anthrax. He observed rod-shaped bacteria and suspected they caused anthrax. When Koch infected mice with blood from anthrax-stricken cows, the mice also developed anthrax. This led Koch to list four criteria to determine that a certain germ causes a particular disease. These criteria are known as Koch's Postulates and are still used today. Integral to these criteria is Postulate #3, âThe disease must be reproduced when a pure culture is inoculated into a healthy, susceptible host.â Even today, with all of the advances in modern science, it would be impossible to prove that a specific germ is responsible for a disease without the use of laboratory animals.psuedo-scientific is ad hominin therefore your argument isnt valid
- Dr.Rajeev Fernando, infectious disease physician, director of the division of infectious diseases at Stony Brook Southampton Hospital in New York, and the first U.S. doctor to investigate the virus in China.did you not see my argument??? They are deceiving you.Unfortunately, you have not responded to my professional source.Â
John Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center map, World Health Organisation, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control and Worldometer all measure over 4 million deaths from Covid 19.ÂliesUnelaborated claim.Â
The JAMA Internal Medicine reported that Covid-19 cases could be six to 24 times higher than what had been reported.An analysis by The New York Times in August found that the death toll was higher than average from March to Julyâabout 200,000 more deaths than expectedâeven though the official death toll due to Covid-19 was about 140,000 at that time.Based on CDC data, there have been about 279,700 more deaths than would normally be expected through October 3, 2020. Given that the official death toll for Covid-19 in that time period was 200,499, the pandemic could be causing even more deaths than are officially being reported.The non-profit organisation Global Change Data Lab noted that there were 260,000 excess U.S. deaths from March 1 to August 16 compared to the average of the five previous years, although the official Covid-19 death toll was 169,000 in that time.the first study is liberalist lies.Unelaborated claim.Â
Germ theory denialism is the pseudoscientific belief that germs do not cause infectious disease, and that the germ theory of disease is wrong. In the final decades of the 19th century, Robert Koch conclusively established that a particular germ could cause a specific disease. He did this by experimentation with anthrax. Using a microscope, Koch examined the blood of cows that had died of anthrax. He observed rod-shaped bacteria and suspected they caused anthrax. When Koch infected mice with blood from anthrax-stricken cows, the mice also developed anthrax. This led Koch to list four criteria to determine that a certain germ causes a particular disease. These criteria are known as Koch's Postulates and are still used today. Integral to these criteria is Postulate #3, âThe disease must be reproduced when a pure culture is inoculated into a healthy, susceptible host.â Even today, with all of the advances in modern science, it would be impossible to prove that a specific germ is responsible for a disease without the use of laboratory animals.psuedo-scientific is ad hominin therefore your argument isnt validUnelaborated claim. I shown why germ theory denialism is false with scientific experimentation.Â
- Dr.Rajeev Fernando, infectious disease physician, director of the division of infectious diseases at Stony Brook Southampton Hospital in New York, and the first U.S. doctor to investigate the virus in China.did you not see my argument??? They are deceiving you.Unfortunately, you have not responded to my professional source.ÂNo. i know they r because my dad is a scientist he tells me alllllllllllllll about their lies.
John Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center map, World Health Organisation, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control and Worldometer all measure over 4 million deaths from Covid 19.ÂliesUnelaborated claim.Âincorrect.
The JAMA Internal Medicine reported that Covid-19 cases could be six to 24 times higher than what had been reported.An analysis by The New York Times in August found that the death toll was higher than average from March to Julyâabout 200,000 more deaths than expectedâeven though the official death toll due to Covid-19 was about 140,000 at that time.Based on CDC data, there have been about 279,700 more deaths than would normally be expected through October 3, 2020. Given that the official death toll for Covid-19 in that time period was 200,499, the pandemic could be causing even more deaths than are officially being reported.The non-profit organisation Global Change Data Lab noted that there were 260,000 excess U.S. deaths from March 1 to August 16 compared to the average of the five previous years, although the official Covid-19 death toll was 169,000 in that time.the first study is liberalist lies.Unelaborated claim.Âlets get this straight."Scientific" results especially when from the CDC are outright LIES they have a clear liberal bias.Unelaborated claim.Â
Germ theory denialism is the pseudoscientific belief that germs do not cause infectious disease, and that the germ theory of disease is wrong. In the final decades of the 19th century, Robert Koch conclusively established that a particular germ could cause a specific disease. He did this by experimentation with anthrax. Using a microscope, Koch examined the blood of cows that had died of anthrax. He observed rod-shaped bacteria and suspected they caused anthrax. When Koch infected mice with blood from anthrax-stricken cows, the mice also developed anthrax. This led Koch to list four criteria to determine that a certain germ causes a particular disease. These criteria are known as Koch's Postulates and are still used today. Integral to these criteria is Postulate #3, âThe disease must be reproduced when a pure culture is inoculated into a healthy, susceptible host.â Even today, with all of the advances in modern science, it would be impossible to prove that a specific germ is responsible for a disease without the use of laboratory animals.psuedo-scientific is ad hominin therefore your argument isnt validUnelaborated claim. I shown why germ theory denialism is false with scientific experimentation.Ârefer to above post
John Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center map, World Health Organisation, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control and Worldometer all measure over 4 million deaths from Covid 19.ÂliesUnelaborated claim.Âincorrect.Unelaborated claim.Â
The JAMA Internal Medicine reported that Covid-19 cases could be six to 24 times higher than what had been reported.An analysis by The New York Times in August found that the death toll was higher than average from March to Julyâabout 200,000 more deaths than expectedâeven though the official death toll due to Covid-19 was about 140,000 at that time.Based on CDC data, there have been about 279,700 more deaths than would normally be expected through October 3, 2020. Given that the official death toll for Covid-19 in that time period was 200,499, the pandemic could be causing even more deaths than are officially being reported.The non-profit organisation Global Change Data Lab noted that there were 260,000 excess U.S. deaths from March 1 to August 16 compared to the average of the five previous years, although the official Covid-19 death toll was 169,000 in that time.the first study is liberalist lies.Unelaborated claim.Âlets get this straight."Scientific" results especially when from the CDC are outright LIES they have a clear liberal bias.Unelaborated claim.Â
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Germ theory denialism is the pseudoscientific belief that germs do not cause infectious disease, and that the germ theory of disease is wrong. In the final decades of the 19th century, Robert Koch conclusively established that a particular germ could cause a specific disease. He did this by experimentation with anthrax. Using a microscope, Koch examined the blood of cows that had died of anthrax. He observed rod-shaped bacteria and suspected they caused anthrax. When Koch infected mice with blood from anthrax-stricken cows, the mice also developed anthrax. This led Koch to list four criteria to determine that a certain germ causes a particular disease. These criteria are known as Koch's Postulates and are still used today. Integral to these criteria is Postulate #3, âThe disease must be reproduced when a pure culture is inoculated into a healthy, susceptible host.â Even today, with all of the advances in modern science, it would be impossible to prove that a specific germ is responsible for a disease without the use of laboratory animals.psuedo-scientific is ad hominin therefore your argument isnt validUnelaborated claim. I shown why germ theory denialism is false with scientific experimentation.Ârefer to above postRefer to my analysis on Germ theory denialism.Â
The JAMA Internal Medicine reported that Covid-19 cases could be six to 24 times higher than what had been reported.An analysis by The New York Times in August found that the death toll was higher than average from March to Julyâabout 200,000 more deaths than expectedâeven though the official death toll due to Covid-19 was about 140,000 at that time.Based on CDC data, there have been about 279,700 more deaths than would normally be expected through October 3, 2020. Given that the official death toll for Covid-19 in that time period was 200,499, the pandemic could be causing even more deaths than are officially being reported.The non-profit organisation Global Change Data Lab noted that there were 260,000 excess U.S. deaths from March 1 to August 16 compared to the average of the five previous years, although the official Covid-19 death toll was 169,000 in that time.the first study is liberalist lies.Unelaborated claim.Âlets get this straight."Scientific" results especially when from the CDC are outright LIES they have a clear liberal bias.Unelaborated claim.ÂPlease elaborate on why they are lies.Âbecause the people in CDC have a clear liberal bias
John Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center map, World Health Organisation, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control and Worldometer all measure over 4 million deaths from Covid 19.ÂliesUnelaborated claim.Âincorrect.Unelaborated claim.ÂNo.Â
Germ theory denialism is the pseudoscientific belief that germs do not cause infectious disease, and that the germ theory of disease is wrong. In the final decades of the 19th century, Robert Koch conclusively established that a particular germ could cause a specific disease. He did this by experimentation with anthrax. Using a microscope, Koch examined the blood of cows that had died of anthrax. He observed rod-shaped bacteria and suspected they caused anthrax. When Koch infected mice with blood from anthrax-stricken cows, the mice also developed anthrax. This led Koch to list four criteria to determine that a certain germ causes a particular disease. These criteria are known as Koch's Postulates and are still used today. Integral to these criteria is Postulate #3, âThe disease must be reproduced when a pure culture is inoculated into a healthy, susceptible host.â Even today, with all of the advances in modern science, it would be impossible to prove that a specific germ is responsible for a disease without the use of laboratory animals.psuedo-scientific is ad hominin therefore your argument isnt validUnelaborated claim. I shown why germ theory denialism is false with scientific experimentation.Ârefer to above postRefer to my analysis on Germ theory denialism.Âapeal to authority
Conduct: Plagiarism by Pro, Round 3 calling Con several curse words as well as accusing Con of being morally corrupt and a member of a real world conspiracy. Con didn't really violated Conduct other than having an arrogance throughout.
S&G: Pro had worse S&G and both debaters used a terrible amount of quote stacking that made it extremley difficult to read their Rounds so I leave tied as Pro's S&G errors didn't reduce legibility that much and Con was just as bad with that quote-stack nonsense.
Sources: Pro fails to use sources throughout the debate, not just with the plagiarism but even to back the claims of conspiracy and that bacteria and viruses are a hoax whereas vitamins cause diseases... None of this is sourced at all throughout the debate. Con uses New York Times and World Health Organization in Round 1, amongst other sources, to back his claims. Therefore, Con automatically win the Sources point.
Arguments: Pro's entire Round 1 is disqualified as it's plagiarised. Therefore, Pro actually made nearly 0 constructive arguments of his own. Even if we consider the Round 1, Pro's case is a series of claims, with zero expansion or proof, accusing Con and the CDC of being in on a conspiracy together while backing absolutely nothing up. Con's case is that both eyewitnesses and the deaths attributed to Covid are genuinely so. Con's case also suffers from assertion-without-proof syndrome but less so than Pro's. For instance, Con baselessly says that Pro is wrong about denying germ theory, while providing literally 0 URL or books to back his own claim up that diseases are indeed caused by said microbes. He also strangely relies on two anecdotal quotes that suffer from 'appeal to authority' simply because one is a doctor etc but Pro never counters Con's appeal to authority without himself failing to provide any source with authority or even without (Pro's only source is himself as the asserter).
If this was meant to be a joke debate, it wasn't clear, neither side treated it like one, and it wasn't funny. While it's clear that drlebronski was being ironic in this instance, if he wanted a joke debate to mock conspiracy theorists and pseudoscience, he should've stated that's what he wanted from the outset.
All of the claims made by pro in r1 are unsourced, many of which con refutes or points out have no source and gives a source proving the contrary. Pro's entire argument never attempts to poke a logical hole in con's constructive arguments or rebuttals, instead just disputing the validity of his sources. If he could prove to me that every source that pro gave was either a) Unhelpably biased, b) Irrelevant to the claim being made or invalid for any reason, or c) Pseudo-scientific evidence designed to deceive, then I would believe him, but he doesn't. He simply claims that they are invalid despite the fact they're obviously, at least for the most part, logical. He cannot simply make a claim and then not explain it or source it.
Pro doesn't give a single source except for one from the CDC which he claimed was untrustworthy one paragraph prior. Con gives many sources.
Pro's first speech is literally a single block of text. I honestly want to give S&G a tie vote because of the quote indentation that gets worse the longer the debate goes, but it's still legible, whereas the block of text genuinely hurts to read.
Perhaps I skimmed through the debate a little too quickly lmao
how was conduct tied?
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i think you should just concede right now.
I know that this is the least of our concerns right now, but you copy pasted your R1 argument.
im clearly winning this debate.
mmmm I may be in trouble.
i warned you
damn it lol
I read the first sentence, the first three words even and I already know where this came from.
Done, challenge accepted.
i could easily own you and turn you into a triggered liberal sjw.
ive done HOURS of research accept if you dare.