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BigPimpDaddy

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#3241

THBT: The God of the Christian bible likely does exists

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The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

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After 4 votes and with 28 points ahead, the winner is...

Bones

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Publication date: 10.05.2021 11:57PM
Last updated date: 10.27.2021 06:34AM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 2
Time for argument: One week
Max argument characters: 10,000
Voting period: One week
Point system: Multiple criterions
Voting system: Open

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Bones

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God -the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being.
no kritik

Round 1

BigPimpDaddy

10.12.2021 11:57PM

Pro

Forfeited

Bones

10.13.2021 02:06AM

Con

Thx doc I'll give you a short one since I don't think you'll be comign back.

The anti ontological argument

P1. The creation of the universe is the most marvellous achievement imaginable.

P2. It is more impressive to complete act X whilst you are handicapped than when you are completely able

What is more impressive, me running a 100-meter sprint in my full form, or me running with one leg. Obviously, me completing the same sprint but handicapped is more impressive. It follows that therefore, the more handicapped I am, the more impressive me running 100 metres is. The same applies for the creation of the universe.

P3. The most formidable handicap possible for a creator would be there non-existence

Truism

P4. If p1 then it is conceivable that the greatest feat would be to create the mankind while not existing.

P5. An existing God would not be greatest conceivable creator, as an even more incredible creator would be a God which did not exist

C1. God does not exist.

Application of Occam's Razor

The Occam's Razor, also known as the law of parsimony states that “plurality should not be posited without necessity”. The principle deems a theory most likely if it has the least ontological commitments when compared with other theories. The principle can also be expressed as “entities are not to be multiplied beyond necessity” [12]. Thus, my application of Occam's Razor can be framed by theism versus metaphysical naturalism [13]. Whilst Metaphysical naturalism has only two ontological commitments (the physical universe and the laws that govern it), Theism has three commitments (the physical universe, the laws that govern it and a divine being).

Hence, the theory sans the inclusion of God is deemed a priori most likely.

Thus, the resolution is upheld as the contrapositive would dictate if the theory not including God is likely, then it would logically entail that the theory including God is unlikely.

Round 2

BigPimpDaddy

10.20.2021 02:06AM

Pro

Forfeited

Bones

10.20.2021 06:34AM

Con

end

Barney

10.24.2021 06:34PM

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Forfeiture.

Ramshutu

10.24.2021 06:21PM

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Full Forfeit

ILikePie5

10.22.2021 08:04AM

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Full forfeit

RationalMadman

10.20.2021 09:20AM

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Reason:

ff .