Instigator / Pro
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1709
rating
564
debates
68.17%
won
Topic
#3243

Cats have/portray/display/pertain the majority of symptoms of autism. Autism, in human diagnosis terms, is in fact the 'neurotypical' state of a cat's mind.

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
3
0
Better sources
2
2
Better legibility
1
1
Better conduct
1
0

After 1 vote and with 4 points ahead, the winner is...

RationalMadman
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
4
Time for argument
One week
Max argument characters
30,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
3
1506
rating
4
debates
50.0%
won
Description

Cats are not 'all types of cat' if we go into wild forms. I am referring to the creature that is smaller than a big dog and is generally domesticated or feral but lives in bushes. Lions and all such 'wild' variations of cat are not relevant to the debate. Any cat brought up by Pro or Con has to be the size and shape that is what people mean when they describe a 'pet cat', even if some of that physical type are feral.

examples of cat:

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/VSy6kJDNq2pSXsCzb6cvYF-1200-80.jpg
https://cdn.britannica.com/47/168047-131-123149D2/cat-hair-growl-teeth-snarl.jpg
https://vetstreet-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com/9d/6d/844f96204112adb76d7dff7f300e/man-loves-cats-iStock_000017127254-335sm6914.jpg
https://www.peta.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/IMG_9786-1.jpg
https://www.litter-robot.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Cat-sniffing-kitten-760x335.jpg

When I say symptoms of autism, this includes:
https://www.autismspeaks.org/what-are-symptoms-autism

they may not understand or appropriately use:
Spoken language (around a third of people with autism are nonverbal)
Gestures
Eye contact
Facial expressions
Tone of voice
Expressions not meant to be taken literally

Additional social challenges can include difficulty with:
Recognizing emotions and intentions in others
Recognizing one’s own emotions
Expressing emotions
Seeking emotional comfort from others
Feeling overwhelmed in social situations
Taking turns in conversation
Gauging personal space (appropriate distance between people)

Restricted and repetitive behaviors vary greatly across the autism spectrum. They can include:

Repetitive body movements (e.g. rocking, flapping, spinning, running back and forth)
Repetitive motions with objects (e.g. spinning wheels, shaking sticks, flipping levers)
Staring at lights or spinning objects
Ritualistic behaviors (e.g. lining up objects, repeatedly touching objects in a set order)
Narrow or extreme interests in specific topics
Need for unvarying routine/resistance to change (e.g. same daily schedule, meal menu, clothes, route to school)

There are a couple more potentially but that covers what I will argue that cats have the majority of.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

There's a couple ways the resolution could be interpreted. To me it generally looks like pro is arguing that cats generally present as symptomatic for autism, and this is their normal state (as opposed to humans where it is abnormal).

Pro opens with a case perhaps hindered by generalities. Con opens with calling attention to that, and an attempted K against the idea of comparing cats and people.

Pro gets very deep with sources to support the eye contact parallel. Likewise shows that cats are obsessed with habits.
Con argued because not all cats are identical, but then that humans with autism are not identical either... This isn't a good way to build an argument.
Both agree that quality of parenting leads to differences in how well an autistic person integrates into society, but disagree on if the conclusion of that is that better parenting for the autistic leads to one who is better integrated into society...

Arguments: Pro.
In gist, pro supported connections to multiple symptoms of autism; whereas con dig his feed into the ground and denied if it's valid to do that.

Sources: Tied.
I do find pro's to be better utilized, but con put up a fight with his own sources; leaving this within the tied range.

Conduct: Pro.
Con missed a round, plus behavior in comment section