Instigator / Pro
3
1489
rating
5
debates
40.0%
won
Topic
#3251

rap battle

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Winner
3
2

After 4 votes and with 1 point ahead, the winner is...

BigPimpDaddy
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Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
5
Time for argument
One week
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Winner selection
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
2
1687
rating
555
debates
68.11%
won
Description

Its simple,
You have to choose a rap song that you think is better than your opponents.
Voters choose who has the better rap song.

Example

ROUND 1
(insert music here)

ROUND 2
(insert music here)

etc

no kritik

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Winner
1 point(s)
Reason:

eyedea and abilities-exhausted love.
Quite liked the piano hook here, and a little anti-capitalism rant in there. I found it pretty snazzy, and it’s the type of lyrics that resonates a little better for me, I would listen to this one again - 9/10.

Daylight - Aesop rock. I liked the tune, didn’t care for the rap; while I don’t mind fast, this wasn’t understandable for me. 6/10

Funksoobiest: I love the hook. I won’t lie; a good hook is going to win me over much more than any lyrical skill, that’s what engages me. While it sounds like Christopher walken is rapping - I felt the rap really worked well with the hook, with a pretty catchy refrain. I’m not lost in thought when I give this one another 9/10 on the grounds that this is the type of rap I could listen to again.

Word burglar - sneaky neighbours: great hook again, loved the lyrics - this is really the only one so far that the lyrics and delivery stood out for me, as in that I thought the lyrics really popped (as opposed to the first one which were good). This one made me lol. Thus 10/10

Jedi mind tricks: the hook was good, the actual rap kinda blended in with all the others; though I found the more bouncy beat driven fly rap to be a little easier in the ear than the others. Not a patch on the others here though: 7/10

Immortal technique point of no return.
The 8bit synth string start made me lol a little. Felt very out of place; but the low piano notes made up for a little. I like the lyric complexity, but the content is immediately forgettable: 7/10

Sa-roc - forever. I didn’t hate this one, but nothing about it stood out. It’s okay, but to me this is the type of stuff I imagine hearing in Old Navy, of outlet stores. 5/10

Apathy I keep in: I liked this one better, it had a decent hook, and a decent refrain; I can bob my head along to this one: 9/10

k-rino: never loved you. Another fairly boilerplate generic rap. While the hook was a bit better than sa-roc, it doesn’t stand out in any substantial way. After listening to this one; if you played me a bunch of generic sounding rap songs, and slipped this one in the middle: I wouldn’t recognize it. 6/10

Jedi mind tricks: better, great hook here, otherwise the rap is about the same as the JMT track from BPD - as a result I have to give this 7.5/10 (it’s not worth an 8, but is better than BPDs)

BPD total: 41/50
Rm total: 34.5/50

Winner: BPD

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Winner
1 point(s)
Reason:

I’m bad at voting but here I go.

R1. Pro
Reason:

RationalMadman’s song tries to tackle big ideas but fails spectacularly in a mess of hyperbole one after another.

BigPimpDaddy‘s song keeps it simply personal and coherent with a sick flow.

R2. Con
Reason:
BigPimpDaddy‘s song had some disturbing lyrics in the first few lines of the opening verse, “clean logic procreation I did not invent the wheel I was the crooked spoke adjacent While the triple sixers lassos keep angels roped in the basement”. What the fuck dude?

the messages in RationalMadman’s song are important although they do not speak to me. Plus I liked the rhythm.

R3. Con
Reasons:
In terms of BigPimpDaddy‘s song, though I liked the flow everything else was a bit too generic for my taste.

RationalMadman song came out guns blazing with the dissing, which is a nice change of pace from his previous music.

R4. Pro
Reason:

I’m purely giving this one to BigPimpDaddy due to the songs comedic theme. Very unique. I also liked the brass and piano which went well with it.

In terms of RationalMadman’s song I loved the chorus but everything else was alright.

R5. Con
Reason:

It’s close but if I had to pick it’s Con due to the female vocals and the addressing of societal issues such as the negative effects of media, overprescription of drugs, etc.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Winner
1 point(s)
Reason:

OK. Listened to all 10 tracks. Honest judgement as follows. Based solely on aural appreciation.

R1. Draw.....1-1
R2. Draw.....1-1
R3. Preferred BPD's choice...1-0
R4. Preferred RM's choice....(My favourite overall).....0-1
R5. Preferred BPD's choice..(Second favourite).....1-0

So BPD edges it 4-3

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Winner
1 point(s)
Reason:

This debate failed to meet the minimum requirements for valid voting. To wit: the Voting Policy: "The act of casting votes on DebateArt.com is not treated like common popular voting, but instead reasoned judgments. The offered reason for the decision must be publicly accessible." Since there are no reasoned arguments presented by either opponent, but merely the presentation of various rap songs, to vote would be just "common popular voting" which is clearly not allowed. I cannot make reasoned judgments merely on listening to songs, even in music to which I enjoy listening. IN this case with rap songs, yes, I can be utterly impartial, but the songs, themselves, make no argument as to their relative quality by which to make a reasoned judgment. I could only say, "I like this song," and "I don't like that song," but that is not reasoned judgment. if one opponent had offered any argument relative to the debate requirement to offer argument and rebuttal, that opponent would have won the debate. WHY is your selection of songs better than your opponent's? Where both fail to do so, I have no other vote possible. Tie.