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With 1 vote and 1 point ahead, the winner is ...
possession of the means of production by workers.
works: does not generate economic decrease.
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2. The burden of proof is shared.
3. Any violation of the above rules means losing the debate immediately.
The possession of the means of production by the workers is not related to only acquiring financially or what raw labor gives, so in those cases it would not be communism that causes the decline but the limitations of financial acquisition beyond of the basics.
The first point is not necessarily true, if the rich obtain less taxes, and easier to invest, although the workers have the means of production, they will prefer to invest here while creating companies in other places, instead, in a hypothetical socialist world, they will not they would have somewhere to go.
Led by Vladimir Lenin, the Bolsheviks put Marxist theory into practice with the Russian Revolution of 1917, which led to the creation of the world’s first communist government. Communism existed in the Soviet Union until its fall in 1991.
Today, communism and socialism exist in China, Cuba, North Korea, Laos and Vietnam—although in reality, a purely communist state has never existed. Such countries can be classified as communist because in all of them, the central government controls all aspects of the economic and political system. But none of them have achieved the elimination of personal property, money or class systems that the communist ideology requires.
they had a way of circumventing (via the phone password), and in fact, they may be using my social networks right now.
the thief has access to your gmail account? They knew the passcode or had a way to bypass it?
That is SERIOUS, it is worse than them just selling it for parts or resetting the phone to use it.
It would be possible if the thief in question had not deleted my account (I use gmail for this site).
While that is terrible, you can try and access the email elsewhere.
Sorry to hear it, hopefully you can afford one soon,
my cell phone was stolen, so I lost my original account, and I can no longer debate.
"If 'works' means that the workers seizing the means of production leads to the economic power of the nation reducing, this happens each and every time."
I MADE A MISTAKE IT IS OBVIOUS PLEASE
I meant to say that if 'doesn't work' means that... I'll explain in next round...
Please, it's really obvious I meant the opposite to what I said when saying 'this happens each and every time.' I didn't mean that it works every time, I meant the literal opposite, I apologise for my miswording.
I have finished the debate against bones, go choose the winner.
what generated decline in that case was the war, not the economic system.
"works: does not generate economic decrease."
The Soviets, in the 20's, still had economic decrease due to war, despite prospering to a degree. There is no system that does not generate decrease.
There is no system that never generates decrease. If it is one, then it means it has never been used ever.