Minecraft is better than any other sandbox game
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I'll just award arguments here. Any new arguments brought up in the final round are not counted.
Rather than going through each individual point, I'm just going to focus on the resolution, which unfortunately feels like it takes a backseat throughout much of this debate. Initially, I thought it was rather obvious that this would be a debate about whether either Minecraft or Roblox are the better sandbox game, but it seems as though much of this debate focuses on elements that have nothing to do with their sandbox nature, which makes me think that the topic should have been changed to accommodate the type of argument that Pro is making (particularly the accessibility point).
In any case, I'll evaluate the debate that was argued and not what I feel that the definitions implied.
I think Pro gets lost in the weeds here, aiming to respond to Con's points without building his own offense. He starts with a few decent points, but all of them are complicated by the end of the debate and, more importantly, I'm not given an objective measure that tells me why any of these are among the most important factors when it comes to evaluating these games. By contrast, Pro spends more time laying out a case for why people care about the issues he presents. They might not be as stark as he claims, but they don't have to be, and much of Con's responses to Pro's points come off as mitigation rather than effective counters or turns. I think customizability is the point that's coming through clearest from Con's side, and while there's a lot to love about the customizability of Minecraft, I think what's missing is a statement about why those distinct customizable aspects are more valued than the ones Con presents. Con just gives me more to weigh in the debate, and while I would have liked to see more about why those things are valued by sandbox players in general, he still does more than Pro and that gives him the win in my book.
In R3 pro looses a conduct point. I also do not flow new arguments in final speeches, so the only offensive ground that minecraft is a 1 time purchase, it is customizable, and "driven by your desires." Also I honestly feel like the second two are the same position, so winning both of these would still only give access to one impact.
Con turns the second two advantages listed by Pro by showing roblox is more customizable. Con is still winning on this in R2 with the points on creators, and then Pros R3 can clearly not respond to the previous points on this issue. "While Minecraft doesn't have built in mod creator, you are able to take the communities mods and use them for your own creations." This is basically a concession on this because it is admitting that it is easier to mod on roblox.
Pros first argument was about minecraft being a 1 time purchase. Con's point on a free model being less corrupt are good in R1. Con's point on the free model is in a qoute in R2 from pro, but no actual response is given to this point. This means Pro drops the only offensive ground left, and bringing up offense in the last round is unfair, so I will not count new points.
This means because Pro has no offensive ground, and because Con turned the customization point, Con wins on arguments.
Thank you for the vote.
So, will you please vote?
@RM
Just by glancing at it, I think it's obvious that u won on conduct, and I believe u also won on arguments
@RM
Just by glancing at it, I think it's obvious that u won on conduct, and I believe u also won on arguments
I’ll try to get to this.
This would be a hard debate to vote on. I'm not eligible anyway.
pls vote if you care to.
2 days left to vote on this if you care to.
Please consider voting, I don’t want to tie for a topic I believe I thoroughly won.
My thought process was that I was asking whether PoliticalDebater was you, or if he was some random.
Your question is angled so that either I was political debater or I was 'some random'. If your question is if I have alt accounts that use this website, the answer is no. So, PD isn't me.
About the insults... those misconceptions about Minecraft really ticked me off. Sorry for that.
Question, were you PoliticalDebater or some random?
if I wanted to fight fair, I would take unrated ;)
Na, I do believe in fighting with honour but in terms of twisting things in my favour, I'm gonna do that. It's how to competitively debate.
I'm going to message you on this
Seriously? Minecraft? the gameplay is trash and don't get me started on the graphics, number 1 is gameplay, wooden pickaxes mine stone and coal but can't mine iron??? this has no amount of realism? and oh let me mention no physics.
Yes, totally fair comparison. One block vs Megabuild
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/roblox/images/d/d9/Terrain.jpg
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/minecraft/images/8/81/Dirt_server.png
Appreciate the thought
Might level a vote on this IF, I have time
Freedom is very important to Sandbox games but I will refrain from debating in the comments section other than to say that.
IDK if freedom is the best thing. I mean, for Conway's game of life, it is so vague that you can't even tell what is happening on screen.
I generally find Genshin Impact more enjoyable than MC and find MC a little on the too libertarian side. Mostly you will just play one or a few modes unless you the developer.
Roblox is better. I have played both and it is easier to get into roblox and seems to be as complex or a simple as you want. I haven't played much, but my 6 year old loves roblox. I say the one advantage of mine craft, is that it is a bit easier to play on Linux, which I appreciate
Huh. Oh well, he accepted anyway.
Well actually I have hardly played RDR2, and Minecraft is closer to my heart. But I can't deny that the former is objectively a better quality open-world game.
Decide among yourselves who's the most loyal to their game.
Change it to "open-worlded games" and I will argue that Red Dead Redemption 2 is better.
Sure! That was what I was expecting, so not surprised! Accept it when you can!
Core would be another good option for consideration (basically Roblox in the Fortnite graphics engine).
I'll rep Roblox. I also unironically agree with that Roblox is better.