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#3297

Free will is the ultimate good

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The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
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Better sources
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Better conduct
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After 1 vote and with 6 points ahead, the winner is...

Benjamin
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Number of rounds
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Time for argument
Two days
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10,000
Voting period
One month
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Description

Free will definition: The ability to do something independent of outside influence.

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@Exanimaa

DDO has many glitches, even if you think a debater there is good, this site is better.

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@Exanimaa

That was not in your debate rules, you cannot just set a rule after the debate begins just because you made it.

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@Exanimaa

Just because word salad comes froma philosopher doesn't mean it isn't word salad. The usage of words in your philosophical rant is flawed and ignoring the real definition of terms as we know them today thanks to science. Knowledge, happiness and freedom don't mean what the old philosopher believed they did.

Furthermore, stop insulting RationalMadman. On our website, we don't do shit like that.

shmuck

You're a waffler brother.

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@RationalMadman

failed to address the issue of free will? i literally said multiple times it isn't a free will debate, its assuming free will exists....

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@RationalMadman

I do not believe you're one day over the age of 17 rationalmadman.

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@RationalMadman

The sense of free will is indeed necessary for happiness in an individual, theres studies showing that once your desires for food, water etc have been met. What next is on the totem poll is the desire for freedom.

No one seems to like indulging in hypotheticals, allergic.

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@RationalMadman

saying there is subjective goodness to oneself based on their nature and recognising or believing no objective goodness are two separate concepts. Its not a contradiction, I've become convinced that DDO debaters are better than the debaters here.

You didnt understand it as you don't know the philosophy behind the argument i put forth, i imagine if you talked about Kant and synthetic a priori's it would appear to be word salad to them too. In fact thats probably word salad to you, i bet you dont know what that means either.

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@Benjamin

Not a free will debate Benjamin, you literally have no idea about the philosophy i talked about in that round. Otherwise you wouldn't be saying its some pseudo intellectual word salad. Its not, its a real philosophy. "no clear argument format" brother, you just didn't understand it, that's all.

Benjamin, this is not a free will debate brother. I said that in the previous round.

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@Exanimaa

To skip a round in debateart without losing a conduct point one can waive the round. Next time, write and post "Waived" in order to avoid forfeiting.

I (similarly) think free will is basically the capacity for evil. But without it, the world would be brute: for whatever a thing was designed, so it shall behave. There would be nothing worthy of exaltation in a world like that.

Free will is the root of all evil today, ironically, if it exists in the first place.

This is a very strange debate, depends how each side ends up defining 'ultimate good'.