Instigator / Pro
4
1456
rating
6
debates
16.67%
won
Topic
#3315

Men should sit down to pee

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
0
3
Better sources
2
2
Better legibility
1
1
Better conduct
1
1

After 1 vote and with 3 points ahead, the winner is...

Novice
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
One day
Max argument characters
3,000
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
7
1597
rating
22
debates
65.91%
won
Description

Read everything below before accepting or it is an automatic forfeit, for you

The resolution means I am arguing that men should sit down to pee in the bathroom. Don't be a smart ass. I don't mean everytime they enter a restroom. I just mean when they go into the restroom to urinate. I also don't mean when men are camping or otherwise in a situation where it is okay to pee outside. Clearly in a parking lot while drunk and tailgating, it is okay to urinate standing up. It is also okay to urinate standing up to put out fires. So the main rule here is to stay on topic, and debate in the spirit of what is trying to be argued here.

rules

1. everything I said above

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@BearMan

"what does CON need to prove?"

That is for each voter to decide for themselves. There's too much nuance in types of resolutions to easily codify it.

That said, I see some qualifiers in the description that it is not trying to say 100% of the time but rather just a strong majority of the time.

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@Incel-chud

Cool, I enjoyed it too.

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@BearMan

Not that interested to talk in dms but I enjoyed out conversation so far.

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@BearMan

You don't have to ask Ragnar. Your vote was within the rules. This is a philosophical argument as to how to vote not an argument as to whether you voted wrong or not.

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@Incel-chud

I don't wanna spam the comment thread, so do u just want to talk in dms and reach a conclusion?

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@BearMan

"The default is just disproving your resolution."

If he actually disproved it that would be fine. He only mitigated the points. In order to overcome my arguments he had to completely destroy them or atleast have a bigger impact with some positive argumentation

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@Barney

If ur still online, in this case, what does CON need to prove? Do they need to prove that men need to pee standing up, or do they just need to disprove that men should sit down?

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@Incel-chud

You clearly have to specify what the other person has to do, if you want them to prove that they are standing up... then say that in the rules. The default is just disproving your resolution. You can't just assume they're going to prove what you want them to prove.

Anyway, if you're leaving than I don't see why you need to care all that much, but report it if you want to. I've gotten a complaint on the vote from RM alr so if u rlly believe its a bad vote just report it.

You don't specify BOP in the rules. There is a way too figure out who has BOP that is entirely independent of the rules, in topics like this it is shared. Con has to show why most men should stand to pee. And I have to show why they should sit more often than not. I thought about altering the BOP because I know voters here are incompetent but ultimately I don't care much because I will be leaving the site within 48 hours anyway

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@BearMan

Don't vote if you are too incompetent to do a proper impact analysis

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@Novice

this debate was hard for PRO to win any way bc of his resolution
he should have specified the BOP more in the rules

@RationalMadman

no that would be considered a kritik, and applied in this case, its against the rules provided by Incel_chud. that's the way i understand it.

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@BearMan

What I would have pointed out in my round 3 was the absurdity of the idea that if someone claims all men should sit down to pee, that means I must prove that all men must stand, but the voters already know this.

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@BearMan

Thank you so much for voting. I actually forfeited the last round because I fell asleep and time ran out, but I was already winning the debate significantly so I wasn't to bummed out about it.

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@BearMan

so for instance if you say vegetables are healthy it means if you have raw courgette a lot that's healthy... (it isn't).

@RationalMadman

Cant ping but in my debates, it was always referenced as all.

For example, when you say Black Lives Matter, it means all black lives matter, not some black lives matter, or most black lives matter.

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@BearMan

the default is on balance or most, not 'all' you had a lot of insertion of your own interpretation there.

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@Novice
@Incel-chud

I've voted.

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@Lunatic

When can we start a voting block? I need votes. I plan on putting some in myself later.

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@Incel-chud

Voting is too hard.

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@Novice

Thank you for debating this with me. It was fun. Hopefully you find some more fun debates to engage in here.

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@RationalMadman
@ILikePie5
@TheUnderdog
@Intelligence_06
@gugigor

This debate is finished and you guys cared enough to comment, so I am requesting some votes fif you guys feel like taking the time to do so.

Just vote CON, I forgot about the round 3 argument, and I probably din't need one anyway.

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@Yassine

I think when you do settings for what opponent can accept, you can put the elo score all the way up and other things where nobody will easily be able to accept.

- I have a question. What exactly is the "Rating mode" in the parameters list? How do I make it impossible for others to accept my debate until I feel ready?

Based

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@Novice

I will have the argument up later. Thank you

Actually, better said, proceed with your opening argument.

I have accepted the challenge. I am in need on a debate, please tell me when you are ready to begin

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@gugigor

I changed the rules so you can accept now

Actually when I had COVID 5 weeks ago my temp was 104 degrees and I was sweating so much I didn't pee for 2 days. I was drinking 20fl. oz per hour for days and my clothes and sheets would be completely soaked but I just never had to pee. My brain was so broken that I really just couldn't think past a few basic ideas.

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@Intelligence_06

Pee doesn't evaporate in our lungs. Your a male; you would know that.

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@Intelligence_06

I wish I had pee in my lungs ;)

Hold on, you guys urinate? I thought men just have their pee evaporate in their lungs and I think this is much better than peeing sitting down. /s

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@gugigor

I have advertised the debate offsite and have had about 200 eyes on it.

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@Incel-chud

so you're encouraging people to multi account? I don't think there's a lot of people who would accept this debate within the first 24 hour of them joining the site

What am I pulling?

Sad, the things you need to pull to get a win.

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@Turbochad

please accept it

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@Incel-chud

Ok, I might accept your challenge, oh great Incel-chud.