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Topic
#3325

There is no God.

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Intelligence_06
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Type
Standard
Number of rounds
4
Time for argument
One week
Max argument characters
15,000
Voting period
One month
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Description

Debates about God's existence usually take the form where the theist presents their arguments for thinking that God exists, and the opponent tries to tear them down, showing that all the arguments fail. I want, however, to debate the thesis that God does NOT exist. What arguments can you give to think, not just that one cannot demonstrate that God exists, but that He (or She) in fact does not exist? (I also happen to believe that God exists, and I want a debate relevant to that topic where I can play Con and get the last word in!) The 15,000-word limit should give us enough space to really develop the arguments and objections. I will leave God to be defined intuitively in the usual way that most people use the word "God" in the Western world, though I am open to discussion on that point if someone would like to debate a more specific concept of God.

This is from God is Imaginary:

If you think about it, you will realize that there is no difference between God and Leprechauns. Lots of people talk about God as though he exists, but there is no actual evidence for God's existence. And there should be, because there are many positive claims in the definition of God. For example:

God has never left any physical evidence of his existence on earth.
All historical gods were imaginary and we know it.
None of Jesus' "miracles" left any physical evidence either.
God has never spoken to modern man, for example by taking over all the television stations and broadcasting a rational message to everyone.
The resurrected Jesus has never appeared to anyone in a provable way.
The Bible we have is provably incorrect and is obviously the work of primitive men rather than God.
When we analyze prayer with statistics, we find no evidence that God is "answering prayers."
Huge, amazing atrocities like the Holocaust and AIDS occur without any response from God.
And so on.
There is absolutely no evidence indicating that God exists. There is a tremendous amount of empirical evidence that God does not exist. For example, God is defined as a prayer-answering being, but we know with certainty that the belief in prayer is a superstition. Therefore we can conclusively say that God is imaginary.

The idea that there is no god is the most absurd in existence. I mean there the eternal universe theory is purely dead, ever since redshift was discovered scientists had to deal with the beginning. Nothing can't create something for no reason so a God would have to fill in the position.

If something does not exist , there will be no evidence of it’s existence. But there can be Evidence of it’s absence, and hence can be proved it doesn’t exist.
A perfectly good creator of the universe is the best argument of proof of no god.

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@Pendragon524

But that GOD is.
Even if that GOD externally isn't.
I don't expect that there are many people who haven't heard of such a GOD.

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@Pendragon524

My argument was along the lines of Intelligence's. Those loopholes make it, as I said, very easy to disprove the definition.

I feel like about 70% or so of all the atheist arguments on debate sites are all actually from one person (with, like, 100 accounts).
I've seen them all so many times--which isn't to say they're wrong, of course, just a little bland.

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@ComputerNerd

Perhaps you should have debated me! I don’t think it’s easy to prove such a thing.

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@Pendragon524

You made a mistake with the definition of "God" It is very easy to prove God isn't the "perfectly good creator of the universe." which is why I believe that Intelligence took the debate. If you have a counter, please tell me.

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@Intelligence_06

Yeah, I think that captures what most people mean by “God”, so let’s go with it. If I find out over the course of the debate that it’s not ideal for whatever reason, I’ll do it differently next time!

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@Pendragon524

You sure that is the definition? Because if so I will accept. I firmly believe that such a being does not exist at all.

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@zedvictor4

The all-powerful, all-knowing, perfectly good creator of the universe. That’s a fairly standard definition of God.

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@Pendragon524

Based upon the reliable old adage, I think therefore I am. There are undeniably a host of subjective GODS, that exist as internal data management, and can also be expressed as data output.....Not the same as an actual existent floaty about bloke.

So what sort of "no GOD" are you proposing.