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1597
rating
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Topic
#3331

Some women should sacrifice their time and energy for the sake of their childs well being.

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
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6
Better sources
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4
Better legibility
2
2
Better conduct
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2

After 2 votes and with 6 points ahead, the winner is...

RationalMadman
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
2
Time for argument
Two days
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
14
1706
rating
561
debates
68.09%
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Description

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@Novice

You have a rather large barrier to victory with the doubts on if time can actually be sacrificed.

As for mixed enjoyment and non-enjoyment... That resembles an investment instead of a sacrifice.

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@Barney

"con had already brought up that many women enjoy raising children making things not clear sacrifices. This leaves a lot of cons case begging the question of why not leave motherhood to the women who enjoy it?"
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Rangar, this mentions "many women" but I already countered this specific statement, by saying some women enjoy parenting, but you would hardly find anyone who enjoy every aspect of it.

"Also, not everyone enjoys all aspects of raising a child. I doubt any do. It's hard work, but it's necessary." (thats obviouly in my round)

That means by all reason, I have jutified the resolution, and won. The resolution states that some women should sacrifice their time and energy, not all.
I really think it's possible you may be off here.

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@RationalMadman

You're welcome. And very good point about distractions.

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@Barney

I'd concede the 'energy' point sooner if Novice had posted a round 1, I set it up so that there was ample distraction down the energy line to make Novice not realise how deadly the 'time' angle was, which is exactly what happened. Thanks for voting.

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@Novice

For time you could have gained some ground with increased focus on opportunity cost. I don't think you would have won per cee, but you could have made it a lot closer.

I also suggest pre-loading definitions into the description, that way they are pre-agreed (some people will try to change them, but that's usually an obviously bastardly move).

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@RationalMadman

Aiming to get a vote up in time.

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@Barney
@whiteflame

3 days remain on this debate, if you cared to vote. ty if you do.

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@oromagi
@Intelligence_06
@Bones

Do you care to vote on this debate? You commented implying interest.

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@RationalMadman

Very good.

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@TheUnderdog

I am playing devil's advocate.

"Some women should sacrifice their time and energy for the sake of their childs well being."

Sounds a lot to me like,

"Some men should sacrifice their time and energy for the sake of their childs well being."

If a guy is unwilling to sacrifice for his kids, he's a deadbeat. If a woman is unwilling to sacrifice for her kids, it's viewed as female empowerment.

Kritik is an objection to assumptions made in the prior arg. By def, the instigator’s thesis and opening arg are not kritik.

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@Intelligence_06
@Bones
@That2User

Watch and learn the art of the K.

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@That2User

Then you have to justify antinatalism. There is currently no incentive or drive for many women to simply just have no children, not mentioning that most women do have children.

Lemme out K Novice

this dude takes kritiking to a new level.

What happens if the women don't have children?

Why women and not parents? Why women and not mothers?

Please accept the debate, if you wish