Instigator / Con
14
1597
rating
22
debates
65.91%
won
Topic
#3357

Women should be the property of men

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
6
0
Better sources
4
0
Better legibility
2
0
Better conduct
2
0

After 2 votes and with 14 points ahead, the winner is...

Novice
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Two days
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Pro
0
1456
rating
6
debates
16.67%
won
Description

No information

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@Novice

Send me the link and keep spamming me reminders

Can you vote on another one of my debates if you have time? I need more votes

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@ILikePie5

Thank you for voting.

Please give me the riightful win on account of FF

I actually posted my round and the system glitched. I am done with debates here

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@TheUnderdog

I am telling you, it doesn't matter what side you take in a thought exercise.

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@TheUnderdog

I am telling you, it doesn't matter what side you take in a thought exercise.

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@Incel-chud

So your playing Devil's advocate.

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@TheUnderdog

If you can't debate both sides of a position well enough to defeat baseline competent opponents, you don't know the subject well enough where you should even be holding an opinion on it.

I'm very socially conservative on issues like abortion and sex, but if you accept this debate, you're a misogynist; there's literally no other word for it.

No way, someone actually accepted the debate

Even though the official site tells you not to endorse criminal activity, this is very loosely enforced as many debates concern illegal activity, such as banning abortion or legalizing euthanization.

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@Barney

It's like you've never seen reduction to absurdity before...

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@ADreamOfLiberty

You specially complained that moderators had not interceded in such an extreme controlling manner to prevent this debate from even being initiated.

"The CoC not only bans "criminal activity" but "promoting criminal activity" In fact a literal reading of the CoC would forbid arguing for a higher speed limit."

That is not how anyone else interprets the CoC. That you want to CoC to do things it doesn't do, doesn't make it so. You are of course welcome to initiate a referendum to refine any part of it you feel is in need of refinement.

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@Barney
@Novice

@Novice I did not make that case, I did make the case that pro in this debate must necessarily promote activity which is illegal in many countries, thus it is forbidden by the CoC.

@Ragnar you shift the context, as I mentioned multiple times in the introduction thread making argument of any kind is an extremely protected activity in most modern democracies. You misrepresent my claim as "the existence of this debate topic breaks the law". No, no debate topic will break the law in the USA. It does however 'promote' (hence 'pro') illegal activity which is not against the law but against the CoC.

The CoC not only bans "criminal activity" but "promoting criminal activity" In fact a literal reading of the CoC would forbid arguing for a higher speed limit.

Furthermore you say here
"Were either debater to reveal credible information that they have kidnapped someone with the intent to make them a slave, and moderators saw it (again, not every word posted here gets read and approved before it is displayed), the police would be notified."
That is another subtle shift of context. Notifying police and removing the user who made such an admission are two different things. If you believe the CoC empowers you to remove people who have made an admission of breaking any law anywhere that is a much broader power than believing the CoC empowers you to remove content which is itself illegal to post.

For example in the USA it is illegal to distribute child pornography. Simply posting that would be illegal, and knowingly allowing it to remain posted would likely introduce some liability. That is criminal posting.

Breaking a speed limit or built a shed without a permit would constitute "criminal activity", but it certainly not a crime to admit a crime. There is no legal liability, however if you interpret the CoC as authorizing you to ban persons because you think they're criminals then it empowers you to ban someone for speeding or building a shed without a permit.

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@ADreamOfLiberty

You must be extremely stupid to make a case that that

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@ADreamOfLiberty

Regarding your report that the very existence of this debate topic breaks the law:
It does not in any nation to which I am familiar.

Were either debater to reveal credible information that they have kidnapped someone with the intent to make them a slave, and moderators saw it (again, not every word posted here gets read and approved before it is displayed), the police would be notified.

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@Undefeatable

Well, if Novice defines the meaning of property, there's no chance.

I would almost consider accepting this debate if I wouldn't have it on my profile record.

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@Novice

Good luck finding anyone to take this debate.

I could semantics this thing but it would get annoying haha.

I think it is in ones best interests to accept this debate

Sad, the depths...