Instigator / Pro
0
1432
rating
14
debates
10.71%
won
Topic
#3378

Saying terms like "Faggot" in proper context is completely OK

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
0
9
Better sources
0
6
Better legibility
0
3
Better conduct
0
3

After 3 votes and with 21 points ahead, the winner is...

Intelligence_06
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
5
Time for argument
Two days
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One month
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
21
1731
rating
167
debates
73.05%
won
Description

No information

You are talking about a ( faggot ) being / meaning : a bundle of sticks bound together for fuel.

"Good for you. Just because it doesn't hurt you doesn't mean that everyone else is wrong for being hurt by it"

I don't believe the argument is that no one is offended by it, but that it is arbitrarily elevated in a way that almost necessitates its offensive nature.
People are offended by many things, as it seems.

-->
@Nyxified

->Coerce speech how?
By censoring words they don't like.

->I don't see the problem with this.
Because your an SJW.

->Someone asking to not be called words that have been used to oppress and degrade them for centuries doesn't mean they have thin skin; people have the right to not want to be called derogatory terms and to think you're a bad person if you continue to do so/don't believe in that right.

If someone uses a word to degrade you, you need to grow a thick skin. I know that's hard for Canadians to understand, but America is a much more tough country. We don't want the government speech policing us. It's why the KKK haven't been censored yet. It's also why the opposite of the KKK (minorities) are more attracted to America than they are to Canada.

America believes in small government; Canada believes in speech codes.

-->
@TheUnderdog

Coerce speech how? Coerce speech so that people don't say slurs? I don't see the problem with this. Again, just because it doesn't offend you personally doesn't mean it's okay. Someone asking to not be called words that have been used to oppress and degrade them for centuries doesn't mean they have thin skin; people have the right to not want to be called derogatory terms and to think you're a bad person if you continue to do so/don't believe in that right.

If using a term that is symbolic of a millennia of oppression against a group of people hurts some members of that group, that's not their fault. If you don't believe that hurting people unnecessarily is a bad thing because you find kindness an inconvenience, I don't know what to say.

-->
@Nyxified

->Claiming to formerly be a member of the LGBTQ+ community doesn't give you validity points here.

Why not? People have made jokes about me being bi but I don't get offended by them because I'm not an ancom. It's just woke straight liberals and woke alphabet morons from silicon valley using alphabet people as props to coerce speech and it's so annoying.

-->
@TheUnderdog

Good for you. Just because it doesn't hurt you doesn't mean that everyone else is wrong for being hurt by it. Even if it doesn't hurt you, that doesn't mean it's not a bad thing.

I'm a trans lesbian and that term doesn't bother me; doesn't mean it's okay. Claiming to formerly be a member of the LGBTQ+ community doesn't give you validity points here.

-->
@Nyxified

If someone uses the term "faggot", I don't consider this to be bad and you'd figure it would effect me, but it doesn't, and it shouldn't. Grow a thick skin. Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.

-->
@TheUnderdog

The 1st amendment protects you from the government, not from being a bad person.

-->
@Nyxified

I used to be bi (I told people that I was bi when I was) and if someone called me a faggot then, I wouldn't be offended because I have a thick skin. Thin skins lead to the 1st amendment being eroded.

-->
@TheUnderdog

Those who say "___ need to grow thicker skins" often lack empathy toward groups they are not apart of.

-->
@Dopl-Joined.ex3

I have no problem with slurs like the n-words, fa****, fuck, shit, or the derogatory term for Jewish people. People need to grow thick skins. The people that get outraged at the N word are often corporate dems and radical ancoms like theweakredge.

I have no problem with the use of slurs. I think all of them are okay; n word, t word, whatever it may be.
Obviously that does not apply to circumstances that demand some form of conduct.

I would prefer a definition of 'OK' as I can think of a creative way to take on this topic but don't want to risk it as it could go either way.

-->
@Nyxified

Precisely what I was going to ask

Define 'proper context'