Instigator / Pro
7
1484
rating
1
debates
0.0%
won
Topic
#3493

movement does not exist

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
3
3
Better sources
0
4
Better legibility
2
2
Better conduct
2
1

After 2 votes and with 3 points ahead, the winner is...

loko
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Two hours
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
10
1516
rating
2
debates
75.0%
won
Description

No information

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

In R1, Con is able to directly answer both arguments put forth by Pro.

Pro’s R2 response on C1 is inadequate, because as Con points out, all convergent series are complete.

On C2 both sides are somewhat lacking in R2, but again I go Con. Solipsism is probably irrelevant, so essentially that leaves me with one side telling me objects move in an instant, and the other side telling me the opposite with no real argument from either side. Because of this, I have to default to the arguments made in R1, and I end up giving this to Con.

R3 from Pro turns this into a very close debate, especially with C1 on convergence.

Con answers solipsism, but not this, so I end up awarding this point to Pro. I am not entirely sure that the point made here is correct, but Con should respond to it in the final round at least or I will award that point to Pro without fail.

At the end of the debate, this leaves Pro access to the arrow paradox, which proves the resolution true.

Sourcing is not close, Con uses several reliable sources while Pro does not use any.

On a side note: “how is light and electrical signals transferred without movement” is definitely a new argument in the final round. I will not deduct a conduct point because this was probably done more out of inexperience than intentional malice. So that is just something to watch out for, but good debate to both parties.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

PRO fails to explain that movement between 2 places is impossible. While they do state that " I look at the light that comes out of them, I never feel the objects, I feel the signals of electricity that occur, the idea that there is a movement between each instant is contradictory." Which is ironic, since they essentially concede that electricity is able to move, deeming movement a existing state.

CON does reasonably defend his position with sources and explanations. I have awarded PRO conduct due to the fact that CON presents a argument/question "how does electricity and light transferred without movement?" in the final round, which is typically deemed poor conduct.

A weakness on both sides would be the lack of utilization of the characters they had available, instead sticking to 300-500 character arguments. I would work on length and robustness, but for a first debate, this was relatively decent. Props to both debaters.