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Topic
#3627

Donald Trump committed criminal offences whilst President of the United States.

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
9
0
Better sources
6
2
Better legibility
3
1
Better conduct
3
0

After 3 votes and with 18 points ahead, the winner is...

PoliceSheep
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Two weeks
Max argument characters
30,000
Voting period
One month
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
3
1486
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1
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0.0%
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Description

Donald Trump committed criminal offences whilst president of the United States.

Pro will have to Prove that Donald J Trump under the appropriate federal and/or state law.

The burden of proof is on pro to prove Donald Trump committed an offence. Given this debate does not allow subpoenas or direct testimony, the judgement should based on the available evidence presented by both sides.

This debate is about whether or not Trump committed these offences, not if he would be likely to be convicted in a court of law or if he is likely to be indicted on any of these offences.

Con's role is to defend Donald Trump from the charges Pro puts forward, offering a defense, challenging factual basis and challenging the laws as applied to those circumstances.

Max. Character Limit is high to prevent people being cut-off and is not a suggestion. Quality > Quantity.

No Kritiks. No new arguments in Round 3.

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@Public-Choice

What are these absolutely dishonest characterisations?

Obama ordered a drone strike that killed an American citizen.
But he did not order the drone stick to specifically kill an American citizen, nor was it known that it would've. It was a tragic accident, but clearly not an assassination on an American citizen, and hardly is indicative of a will to conduct drone strikes of US citizens in general.

Trump wasn't just questioning the results of an election. He took specific action through multiple lawsuits in an attempt to baselessly shift the results of the election. Concession aside, has he still to this day even acknowledged that he lost that election?

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@Best.Korea

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually agree with Best.Korea for once. Though I wouldn't go so far as to say Trump was the best president we ever had, he definitely was top 10 at least.

But he is completely right that Bush and Obama committed blatant war crimes and did blatantly unconstitutional actions while in office but both got a free pass. Obama wanted to conduct drone strikes on U.S. Citizens for goodness sake. In fact he did just that. He literally assassinated at least one U.S. Citizen. But he wasn't impeached. In fact he is considered a national fucking hero by half of the country. Think about that for a second. The media calls Trump a threat to democracy yet glorifies a man who assassinated an American citizen.

What is a bigger threat to democracy? Assassinating American citizens or questioning the results of an election yet still conceding anyways?

That should tell you the pulse of the left right now.

Donald Trump was the best president you ever had. Maybe if your media(such as CNN) didnt put so much effort into making Trump look like the bad guy, you would be able to see this. Also, if presidents were really charged for crimes, bush and obama would be in jail for a very long time. But since you didnt prosecute someone who killed over a million of people, surely you cant say that you have the right to prosecute Trump for whatever "crime" you think he committed.

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@Baseder

Apologies for the delay, however, I have now published my argument.

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@PoliceSheep

Thanks

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@Baseder

Hey, welcome. I will go first, and as soon as my argument is published, there will be a button under the timer for you to publish your repsonse.

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@PoliceSheep

Hello

Sorry, this is my first debate on this site. Do I go first? And how? Thanks

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@PoliceSheep

The debate to begin.

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@TWS1405

what are you waiting for?

Waiting....