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Japan and South Korea are rich and dysfunctional countries. They've had technological and commercial (I wouldn't say the word economic) progress but are socially backward

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JohnDoe3000
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Description

They have high sucide rates and horrible mental health care. - https://www.youtube.com/shorts/iVvbJgUOloo

They have a sexist culture despite all the technology and money they have - https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ngypGx69TiM

Despite all the wealth, standard of living and education, the Judiciary is still backward -https://www.npr.org/2022/06/20/1106313824/japan-court-ban-on-same-sex-marriage-constitutional

South Korea, for all it's talk of being a democracy is regressive in LGBT rights - https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/01/10/south-korean-court-declines-recognize-same-sex-partners and https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/may/25/south-korea-rejects-film-director-kim-jho-gwang-so-same-sex-marriage-case

Japan still has casteism, maybe not like before but it still exists today and that is why reservations has to be given to the lower castes - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34615972

South Korea is no exception when it comes to casteism - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheonmin and also racism - https://www.indiatoday.in/latest-headlines/story/indian-pushes-korea-to-right-race-wrongs-57541-2009-09-30

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@Intelligence_06
@JohnDoe3000

to support what has been said by Intelligence_06: please define the ambiguous terms, namely:

rich;
dysfunctional;
backward;
socially backward;
progress

and give context to:
regressive;
sexist

Japan is not a rich country. Maybe slightly above poor at best. And South Korea is definitelly not a rich country. Just look at the rent cost. Also check the suicide rates, its funny. I mean, there is no such thing as a rich capitalist country. All capitalist countries are just utterly poor or very close to being poor.

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@JohnDoe3000

First, don't enter your first round argument in the description, this isn't the old DDO. If this isn't one, please make smooth clarity instead of giving us planes for counterattacks that we can grapple on.

For example, define what "socially backward" is. Don't expect us to follow what you are saying if you don't put the exact framework into a manifestation in words.

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@RationalMadman

Facts. I was just going to comment. What's wrong with women enjoying being stay-at-home-moms? studies show women are generally happier this way ( i still think people should not be coerced into this) but its something to factor into these discussions.

I actually prefer some of their culture.

Men are generally still truly men and women are still truly women there. They didn't let that part of leftist ideology ruin masculinity and femininity.

They are taking left wing ideology without the sissifivation of men aspect.