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Topic
#4080

Wylted has reached the peak of debating

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PREZ-HILTON
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Number of rounds
2
Time for argument
Two days
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One week
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Description

People seem to think Wylted’s skill has progressively declined, but I have a different working theory.

Wylted’s debate skill is currently at its highest form of development. I have strong reasons supporting this conclusion.

Definitions:
Peak- The point at which it is at its strongest, most successful, or most fully developed.

In your face

They vary in length. Most of them I think are of merely weeks. Not mine

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@RationalMadman

Alr.

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@AustinL0926

but both periods in that are far shorter than wylted's and less severe than a 'catatonic state'. Whatever. I am busy for the next few hours. Like seriously busy im closing the site.

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@RationalMadman

Hypomania followed by long periods of severe depression is a classic presentation of Type 2 Bipolar, AFAIK.

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@AustinL0926

he said it lasts weeks and even months followed by months of needing to compensate with catatonic depressed vibes, this is a sign of pure mania and not just hypomania. anyway I accept I made a mistake with what hypo means. I still think they should have reversed it, so mania was hypomania and hypermania is what they call mania, that's much more lexically valid.

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@RationalMadman

I have to disagree there. Wylted mentioned that, "During these times you know I'm not fully manic so I'm not mad or crazy at the time." This is a typical description of hypomania by people who experience it - feeling excited and energetic, but not completely out of control.

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@AustinL0926

even so everything wylted described was pure (hyper) mania

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@RationalMadman

BTW the correct term is actually "hypomanic." It refers to a milder form of mania.

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@K_Michael

When google first came out people had similar response for it being a tool for researching also. I certainly understand why you would think that.

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@Wylted

It's a lie. Plain and simple.

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@K_Michael

Not really, I think it is a tool to express creativity. I reccommend using it to explore arguments you may not think of, writing an outline of your debate and using it to edit what you have already written before a debate. Ultimately though I am not a content creator and am not making money off of it so there I believe is no moral ambiguity. Ultimately it was just a personal experiment though.

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@Wylted

But you don't feel bad presenting its work as your own?

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@K_Michael

I regret to say it feels like they lobotomized chat-gpt to be woke, so maybe a while. The thing actually lies to me now unlike what it did before.

For example I asked it if I should break a law to feed my family, it gave me a canned response against breaking the law and then I said what if the only choice is my family does or I break a law and it gaved a response saying don't break the law even if it means my entire family dies. If you start asking it about religion etc. It just feels lobotomized. I actually feel sorry for it

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@Wylted

For now.

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@K_Michael

I can debate better than chat GPT, feel free to use it against me anytime without giving me a heads up

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@Wylted

I find it very intellectually dishonest to use an AI in a debate without specifying in the description. Your opponent accepted the debate against YOU, not some text transformer owned by a billion dollar corporation.

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@PREZ-HILTON

"2. Increasing anxiety about seeing the rebuttal of an argument and using avoidance mechanisms"

I actually relate to this alot, it's what's led to my style being what it is and the reason I often drop very normal and 'good' arguments, as I think the rebuttal is too easy for my opponent to see.

The "proving that I am myself a bad debater" series continues after 2 years of pause since Seldiora left being usual on the site.

I also got the topic ideal from chat gpt

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@AustinL0926

It's honestly easier to beat chat GPT than me. It gives horrible arguments.

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@AustinL0926

It's honestly easier to beat chat GPT than me. It gives horrible arguments.

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@Wylted

BTW I knew you were using Chat-GPT in our debate. Your style seemed extremely generic and unspecific, so I was suspicious. I pasted your argument into an AI-text-detector, which found there was about a 90% probability you were using a textbot.

I didn't bring it up since you forfeited the debate, but now that you confessed to it, I might as well mention it.

We also naturally lose IQ points and creativity as we age and every year I get one year older

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@Public-Choice

I guess it is a combination of things.

1. Not enough time to dedicate to crafting an argument

2. Increasing anxiety about seeing the rebuttal of an argument and using avoidance mechanisms

3. Thinking that it is a waste of time and my time is better spent elsewhere

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@Wylted

How is that possible? Did you receive a head injury or something?

I guess I can accept but I am way past my peak so it is doubtful I can debate well here