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Topic
#450

The user known as SupaDudz should ask out his crush as soon as reasonably possible!

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Winner
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After 1 vote and with 1 point ahead, the winner is...

Vader
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Last updated date
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Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
4,000
Voting period
One month
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Contender / Con
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debates
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Description

-No semantics.
-Ask out can mean anything from asking her on a date, asking her to be your girlfriend.
-As soon as reasonably possible means the next time you have a reasonable opportunity to talk to her without any unrelated pressing concerns that would get in the way (i.e. you're going on vacation, she's in the hospital, etc)
-BOP is equal

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@Logical-Master

I thought you'd like to know what happened since the time of this debate.

We ended breaking up after 2 months. It was healthy and it was a mutual agreement. We had to focus a lot more on school and our studies. But we currently are good friends and may get back together for the summer time

Even though the debate was lost by you, I got the balls to do it by you, so I thank you. It was a good 2 months, but things came to an end.

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@Alec

Vote reported: Alec
Mod decision: Removed
RFD: Pro said, "but the risk he is talking about will be a risk no matter how long he waits". These risks will only increase as social media power increases. I personally don't care if Con asks her out or not as long as he doesn't do certain things during the relationship or any other relationship. Me mentioning them is a tangent.
If he gets rejected, oh well. He'll get over it. But what if she says yes? Then you get a girl.

reason: Alec fails to highlight and analyze the main arguments throughout the debate.

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@Logical-Master

You’re right, I made a bit of a hash of that. Let me clarify.

The point of this part was that a large aspect of the timeframe argument was that con felt he didn’t know the girl well enough, enough background, whether she’s a cheater, etc.

In my view, not being sure about the person, and whether they’re worthy is a valid concern: especially for him regarding the risks. While you did point out that he likes her, and this is what dating is for - and he knows her well enough to like her - in my view there wasn’t enough for me to be convinced that he shouldn’t take those specific concerns seriously. This kinda relates to my specific vs generic comment to the end.

I hope that helps clear things up a little.

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@Ramshutu

"In my view pro does not do nearly enough to show why con doesn’t know the person well enough. This is clearly a big problem for con, and in my view, not clearly refuted."

There might be a typo here, but it was never my argument to show or explain why CON didn't know the girl well enough. In fact, I made the case he knew her very well based on his extensive poems about her. Thanks for reading nonetheless! =)

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@Ramshutu

Thanks :) Lmao

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@Vader

Congratulations!

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@Ramshutu

I am not into that but that is still cool.

I didn't get shutdown suprisingly

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@Vader

I built robots and watch Star Trek during high school - before all this geek cultural appropriation today - I got shot down a lot

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@Vader
@Logical-Master

As an addendum to my RFD:

If you really like her, ask her. Life’s really too short. You could be hit by a bus tomorrow and you’ll always regret the not knowing or not asking far more than being shot down.

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@Logical-Master

:)

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@Vader

Meant to address this, but:

"PRO was in a situation where his crush liked him back. How could he have known this? He could have looked at the signs that she liked him. Dilated eye pupils, feet toward the POI(Person of Interest), etc. If he saw the things, then I would tell him to go for the girl and ask her out. That would've been the right moment if PRO noticed the signs that were present. But he didn't."

I could have observed numerous signs that she liked me, but it wasn't really a matter of my ability to look at the signs. The issue was that my fear of getting rejected overwhelmed my ability to think rationally. Or as Mr. Miyagi put it at the end of Karate Kid 3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S6GYF1B8Yk

"IT'S OKAY LOSE TO OPPONENT! MUST NOT LOSE TO FEAR!"

=)

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@Logical-Master

I am pleased too! Thank you

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@Vader

Technically, you asked her out as soon as reasonably possible! ;-)

That notwithstanding, congrats man! Although I don't agree with your argument, I am pleased with the outcome nonetheless!

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@Logical-Master

"I waited til the end of the debate to say this as well, just 2 days ago, I asked my crush in this debate out where she said yes. We went out Friday and we talked a lot. To prepare for this debate, I asked, "What was your first impression of me?" She said that she didn't really have an interest at all from our little chats and stuff. She then said that "even after the first time we hung, I was not sold on you. But then after the second time and the third time we hung. I started to see what type a person you were. A caring good person with a heavy heart and I started gaining interest." From there she said, it JUST TOOK TIME to get used to you and she who you were. She then said "I started to like you this week(before debate was finished) and now here we are."

Times have not changed that much since 2002. The same principles apply to getting your crush to wear a strap on and plow you.

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@Vader

Thanks for the debate! And regardless of what you say in R3, you seriously need to do this ASAP! =)

I plan on voting.

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@Logical-Master

Awaiting response :)

I had some free time so I just finished up my arguments

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@Logical-Master

Ik Hey Arnold plot. Will look into Frasier

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@Vader

If not for the fact that it's a 90s show full of 90s references, I would recommend to it. Frasier on the other hand, I highly recommend it! Niles and Daphne is all I have to say. =)

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@Logical-Master

heard of hey arnold. not much of its plot

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@Vader

Noted! And here's to hoping I convince you to do the deed come January! =)

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@Logical-Master

Posted

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@Logical-Master

Never heard of many

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@Vader

That or Frasier. Good shows and perhaps some of the best ones I've seen in regards to this topic!

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@Vader

lol, in the distant past, I was in your shoes (minus the poems and talking about it on the internet). By the end of this debate, I'll let you know how it turned out!

Incidentally, have you ever seen the show Hey Arnold?

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@Logical-Master

I liked the hook lol

I haven't read it, but im about too