Instigator / Pro
0
1491
rating
6
debates
41.67%
won
Topic
#450

The user known as SupaDudz should ask out his crush as soon as reasonably possible!

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Winner
0
1

After 1 vote and with 1 point ahead, the winner is...

Vader
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
4,000
Voting period
One month
Point system
Winner selection
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
1
1540
rating
30
debates
56.67%
won
Description

-No semantics.
-Ask out can mean anything from asking her on a date, asking her to be your girlfriend.
-As soon as reasonably possible means the next time you have a reasonable opportunity to talk to her without any unrelated pressing concerns that would get in the way (i.e. you're going on vacation, she's in the hospital, etc)
-BOP is equal

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Winner
1 point(s)
Reason:

Arguments.

Pros argument is fairly straightforward - that fear of rejection is understandable, but it’s better to ask, and easy to ask and then see what happens.

Cons counter deals with a few basic issues:

1.) Rejection.

Con argues that he isn’t sure that the girl likes him, as she’s only given a few hints.

Pro points out that while it’s true that there is a chance this is true, if there is a chance now is the best time, as it’s likely going to be one less possible to ask her out as time goes on. He also points out to that pro may well have misread signs

Con points out that there may not be issues with waiting, as relationships rarely last. And con reiterates the signs are not there.

While I find pros points that con should not wait, and his summary that fear is always an issue particularly valid as a general point - however the main point con made was that there was not sufficient evidence to warrant belief of attraction as more compelling, making his fear more specifically justified than pros more general arguments imo.

1:0 Con

2.) Timeframe

Con argues there has not been enough time for him to feel comfortable about her and with her - arguing effectively that this is something he needs.

Pros main reply is that this is what dating is for, and argues that it may not ruin what appears to be a friendship. Con points out that pro didn’t address the main point - his feeling that he doesn’t know the girl too well.

In my view pro does not do nearly enough to show why con doesn’t know the person well enough. This is clearly a big problem for con, and in my view, not clearly refuted.

2:0 con

3.) it’s not as easy as it used to be. Con points out the issues with social media, and how it can mess up his life. Pro points out this will always be a risk no matter how long he waits.

While I think cons issue is valid, I believe con correctly argues on the basis of time here - that the risk doesn’t change with time.

2:1 Con.

On balance, I do have to say I must give this to con. His harms are fairly clear and in my view pro did not do quite enough to sell the chance of success, or to mitigate those harms.