Instigator / Pro
10
1266
rating
119
debates
15.97%
won
Topic

The Sith are good and the Jedi are evil

Status
Finished

All stages have been completed. The voting points distribution and the result are presented below.

Arguments points
3
9
Sources points
4
6
Spelling and grammar points
2
3
Conduct points
1
3

With 3 votes and 11 points ahead, the winner is ...

Earth
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Publication date
Last update date
Category
Movies
Time for argument
Two days
Voting system
Open voting
Voting period
One week
Point system
Four points
Rating mode
Rated
Characters per argument
30,000
Contender / Con
21
1543
rating
4
debates
100.0%
won
Description
~ 0 / 5,000

No information

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Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better spelling and grammar
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

This debate comes down to the fact that Pro keeps trying to explain that the Sith had their reasons to be bad... So what?

Con proves from every angle apparent that both sides had their reasons to do their bad but the Jedi blatantly are the more good-intended side in net-outcome and based on consequential moral compass are the good side beyond a shadow of a doubt.

The sources of Con were actual star wars verified stuff but Pro relied entirely on YouTube videos which were either essentially pirated or just based on biased outlook of a vlogger and on top of that sourced a quote of the Sith Code from a site that lets anyone upload quotes and only verifies it later (goodreads.com)

Aside from that issue, Pro continually defends the Sith as having reasons behind their acts but is being reasonable inherently good? Sometimes the irrational move is the good one. In contrast, Con only uses rationale behind acts to further delve into the morals of Jedi including peace and fairness as their utmost priorities.

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Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better spelling and grammar
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

No information

Added:
Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better spelling and grammar
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

I felt the arguments on both sides were equally convincing. Mostly I found that Pro and Con were talking past each other, not putting in enough time actually addressing and refuting the other's arguments. Also, I don't think posting a youtube video and saying "watch" is a valid form of argumentation. A video can be a source for an argument, but shouldn't be presented - in whole - as an argument itself.

Sources, spelling, and grammar were equal on both sides.

Conduct goes to Con for Pro's forfeit.