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Time is not continuous.

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If a beam of light is made of photons.
And, if the size of the photon has the length of an electron.
The measure of a time particle has the value from an electron size divided by the speed of light.
According to this formula: C= distance (length)/ time.
Where C is equal to the speed of light.
Length is the size of an electron.
And in time we get the smallest particle of time.
Round 1
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The introduction is my first Argument:

If a beam of light is made of photons. 
And, if the size of the photon has the length of an electron. 

The measure of a time particle has the value from an electron size divided by the speed of light.
According to this formula: C= distance (length)/ time.
Where C is equal to the speed of light.
Length is the size of an electron.
And in time we get the smallest particle of time.

Published:
Once again on this useless debate site, everything disappeared when attempting to make an edit.

I cannot be bothered to re-type.
Round 2
Published:
So,...
What Should I write...

Anyway...

Here goes again:


If a beam of light is made of photons. 
And, if the size of the photon has the length of an electron. 

The measure of a time particle has the value from an electron size divided by the speed of light.
According to this formula: C= distance (length)/ time.
Where C is equal to the speed of light.
Length is the size of an electron.
And in time we get the smallest particle of time.

Forfeited
Round 3
Published:
Well,
I will write my wonders about this.

I based myself in the argument that light was a photon.

In this random video, shows some properties of light.

One of these properties is that light is a particle (photon) but also a wave.

My thoughts through this are that the minimum rate (frequency) for the wave would be the less time founded for the photon.

Anyway, nobody calculates the 8 minutes that the light would take to go off if the sun disappears, in a different way than a corpuscle.
And even if there are some effects, the light moves always at speed C (speed of light).

This C speed, the speed of light, is also the speed of electricity.
There is no faster speed than that. 

And there's no other particle less small than an electron that would be stable. 
Smaller particles exist, but they are not stable.

In an extreme way, let's suppose that there's a little tiny particle (smaller than an electron) that would go at C speed.
The time would be always not continuous because there is a force to exist that particle.
(Travelling at C speed).

Forfeited
Round 4
Published:
In an extreme way, let's suppose that there's a little tiny particle (smaller than an electron) that would go at C speed.
The time would be always not continuous because there is a force to exist that particle.

Forfeited
Round 5
Published:
Time is not continuous.
Just because you don't feel, doesn't mean that it's not.

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Even if con were able to get an argument put up, I don't think con would have done any better. It can be demonstrated many different ways that time is not continuous.
#15
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Anyway, it is what it is.
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#14
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It could be a so nice debate... I guess...
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#13
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Anyway, it is what it is.
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#12
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I was wondering about time,...
Somehow t in C=distance(d)/time(t), is just a measure, we could always have time even though we couldn't measure it.
But why to have something that can't measure anything.
If the smaller particle gives the less amount of time to measure the least time that I can have.
(Would be similar to have temperatures less than 0Kelvin)
There's no sense the electrons can't move less than not moving (not spining, or not shaking).
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#11
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Anyway, it is what it is.
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#10
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Sadly the subject doesn't seem to be attractive.
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"In 1947 during a study of cosmic ray interactions, a product of a proton collision with a nucleus was found to live for a much longer time than expected: 10-10 seconds instead of the expected 10-23 seconds! "
in
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Particles/quark.html
Let's suppose that exists an electron-time.
And then maybe Shadows made by these particles, that just exist in their life in 10-23 seconds.
Like grains in a clepsydra that would be moist. (The moist would be their shadow).
It's just wonders.
Never mind!
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#9
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Well,
Somehow I'm thankful that somebody accepted the debate.
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#8
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Sorry for the delay on the first argument wasn't on purpose. Belive me.
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#7
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--> @RationalMadman
Yes, I guess time as an infinite "thing" is an illusion.
Some philosophies believe that we are in a kind of simulation.
The existentialists' ones believe that if we go back, everything would be the same thing.
I sincerely don't know.
But having a doubt, there's a chance of being possible, I guess.
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#6
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--> @mourningeyes
I believe it's coding (we are in a simulation).
#5
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--> @MagicAintReal
Well, Space is continuously growing (Doppler effect) but space is not continuous, you have atoms.
And, atoms are far away from being continuous. (Rutherford experience, not mentioning Schrodinger anyway, but saying that is how they are, not continuous).
In a larger space, I can also say that black holes may be are, what we can say, that space is not continuous.
Imagine a string with beads.
Imagine that you want to know the time that the bead takes to travel.
What is the maximum time that the bead can make to travel:
If the size of it, put the condition about the least size that it can actually make (it's the least portion that the bead can make, if it's smaller it can't move).
And the Velocity is the velocity of light, C.
I guess, we are all expecting something that combines two things. Like electro-magnetism.
Cosmos with atoms, the big and small.
And all the things in nature combine with one another.
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Happy a new year.
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#4
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It's a continuous chain of finite units. Not a stream, the stream is an illusion.
#3
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That's simply not true, because time is on a continuum with space (spacetime) and space is continuously expanding at a constant rate proportional to the distance between the galaxies and is continuously perpetuated by the cosmological constant.
If Chronons are a real particle, there's no indication that the passage of time is not continuous given the standard model of particle physics and cosmology.
#2
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Do not accept this debate. This is genuinely correct.
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Full forfeit. No reason to vote any others except pro.
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Reason:
Sources Full forfeit.
Conduct to Pro because Pro truly tried their level best to put up a fight while Con simply raged about the site's malfunctioning. Pro also didn't put up such a huge fight that Con couldn't respond in amount and time in later Rounds to make up for the Round 1 mishap. This is extremely good conduct by Pro.