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Rap Battle 4

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Usually rules nothing new lets go
Round 1
Published:
Good Luck!
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Who are you, who are you, some irrelevant peasant
Trying to act tough, when you were really resistant
To take on the challenge the day I posted it
So time to take your lyrics and turn them into shit
Because your whole career on DART is complete nonsense
You stepped into the lions gate, now your pinned up against the fence

What makes you think you can win this debate?
Open up the crate and you can pick your own fate
There's only two options here, which one will be?
Will I sting you like a bee, or will I possess your mind like devilry
Because I am the lord and savior taking on all the sites sin
While you just sit in the corner more pathetic than the trash bin
This isn't overwatch, you can't ask for any fucking healings
And my lyrics about to make you go Drake in his feelings

Sorry Mercy, but I show no fucking mercy
Bout to displace you into a pit of eternal misery
More sorrow than Lois Griffin's marriage
You ride the rap wave like pilgrims ride the fucking carriage
Time to pack your bags and head out the door
I think you'll find more success looking at cartoon vore
Sorry, are you offended by fucking
Cause in the end you'll do a lot of dick sucking

Extending this one verse
Your forecast a bit adverse
Cloudy with a chance of rain
And throw you off course to obtain the fucking grain
And even cutthroat blood think my bars are insane
So good that a vein pops out of their brain

Published:
Row row row you got no flow
Poor poor salmon can't swim
Against your current
Cause you have no current
To swim up against

Call yourself a god
Yet no one worships you
I'll keep trying as you keep dying
Taking you down till you go flying
Shooting you out of the sky
Cause it's duck season
Fuck all reason
Reason for living
Reason for being
You're dinner now
Eaten by a peasant
You just a pheasant  

Your house is made of straw
One breathe and you will fall
Inhale, exhale, you will fail
Take you down wall to wall
As you wail, as you wail
Cause I'm a killer whale
An orca orcatrating your demise
So listen up to a word of the wise
Fight a guy of your own small size
Looking for a dick sucker?
I'm a fucking dick biter
Direct strikes to where it hurts
Bite yours off
Ensuring you’ll never reproduce

Your line is vanquished
Your lines burnt to ash
You’re nothing but trash
Nothing but the trash
In the trash bin

So go ahead call me insane
This corner is my domain
Only exists in my brain
I'm in the lion’s gate so call me Daniel
No debate, won’t abate,
Tearing you up like a Cocker Spaniel
My only sin? I win



Round 2
Published:
A-B-C-D-E-F-G
Someone should of told you not to fuck. with. me

You try to row the boat and catch some flow
But lyrically your rhymes were real shallow
And your just metaphor
Nothing less or nothing more
Don' get her hopes because of the comment
Now I'm about to be more deadly than malignant
Take off the fake face
Cause now your playing chase
Say that your duck hunting
But your shots ain't hitting
I'm the fisher that catches the salmon
Dumping your body into the bucket by the gallon
Serving you into Bubba Gump
You're turning orange like Donald Trump

The only fairy tale we talking
Is that you think you can go embarking
On a journey to defeat the Thanos
But you're more than Dean Spanos
And I make yo cry over the forum
You're gonna for the referendum
To stop the cyber attack than you initiated
And you'll be laughed and imitated
Then you will emigrate
And then I'll levitate
To a whole new world of mastery
Your rhymes are not rad, they're bastardly

That1User
Big loser

You think you have own corner
Bitch you ain't even an owner
You haven't beaten anyone 
Your whole career is done
The only sin you commit is being a coward
You couldn't even win a debate extending onward
And your opponent wasn't the real deal
Might as well  gocount your blessing
Before I stamp my approval seel
Of your undoubted losing 
This rap is snoozing

Let me go onto your level
More satanic than the devil
Fat stacks is what I make
Big banks is what I make
Rhyme words with the same word
Now I know you ain't nerd
You're the definition of disgrace
Might as well go and embrace



  




Published:
Your words are weak as the birds cheap
These are the facts of life, you can't deny
Even hear the birds over you watch em fly
Fly fly fly over you as you die die die

What is this a joke? You make me laugh
Acting as if your words have any meaning
You must be leaning, keep dreaming
For I'm the King of Dreams, the dreamer
Now I'm the steamer gonna iron you out
Take you out back cut you no slack 
No stack is gonna help you now sack
Sacking you up and down
Making you a clown to drown 
What are you a joke? You make me laugh
That's 2 times now, you the Golden calf?
Nothing but a false idol standing idle 
Waiting to be struck down
To be struck outta town 
As new birds hatch
Game, set, match
Round 3
Published:
Your rap was not that lengthy
Compare it to your penis, not gurthy
Didn't get the job done
Might as well go run
Dissing you is so fun
For the whole you just dug
Michael Jordan, I'll just shrug

Let me take it up notch
You are like a hairy crotch 
The biggest irritant 
To the male erectant
Juice WRLD cause you're lucid
Words not rhyming, yea you're stupid
I'm like Genghis Khan in rap
You're like China, took a crap
I'm a ruthless savage, submit to my will
Before I cut your head, at your own fucking will
My techniques and strategies are a whole lotta skill
Bout to make to make your cognitive thinking so still
Cause I could roast your picture
But I have to give a lecture
I don't who even is this?
Not important enough to be in my memory
Just like you, your resume here is empty
I'll confess, I'll admit that your the king of dreams
Cause your dreaming that you think you'll win it seems


Published:
China took a crap but bounced back
Took a billion slashes but now is rising from the ashes
A nation on the brink of global domination 
A truly international sensation 
The rising star turning into a supernova, superpower
Becoming stronger with every hour
Don't you see that Chinese mentality is me?
Every time I am struck down my strength multiplies by 3
You say you're Genghis Khan you must be on the bong
Getting high every time you post a word of your song
I'm the King of Dreams the King of something, you're King of nothing
Losing time to rhyme so I'm gonna keep this short and sweet
You're nothing but a Greek geek serving up grease away from Greece
Flying away like geese so it's time for you to cease before you decease
Round 4
Published:
Thanks to the opponent for taking on this challenge!
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How dare you bastardize the culture of the Greeks
We're more anticipated and profound than Star Wars Sneak Peaks
"How about a little sunshine to brighten your day?"
Bitch I'm the moon then, luscious and grey 
And when the time comes I'll block you out like a solar eclipse
Rhymes like iLoveFriday, hit or fucking miss
Poseidon, bout to wash you away
As King Butterfly watches in dismay
Time to take you back to Wayward
And then soon I'll proceed forward
Forces of Evil, I'm too much for you to handle
500 vs 1, yea I'm the king of this saddle

China had a comeback
China killing Muslims
Killing off the culture
Here comes the fucking vulture
Bought to come accustom
To the smog that fuels the air
They're unwilling to share
Japan cause I'm about to grab you by the ballsack
And give a quick dose of reality
Cause in the end the US is still the king of this financial stability

Growing by the hour in human rights violations
How would like if I send you to these concentrations
I'll torture and I'll beat you
Til your black and blue
If you accept the false reality that China "reel guud"
America got problems, like the fucking hood
But at least we can say straight up we got a problem
Unlike your censorship, damn that's the real problem
Cause your unwilling to accept the truth
That you know your gonna lose you fucking goof

King of Dreams because I know you're always lyin
But I'm the king of masculinity, we wildin
Failure like Zedong
Chances of winning, real long
My dick, real long, what a schlong
This rap is the world's greatest song
I'll be on the walls of the hall of fame
Because rap is such a game
Mental endurance 
Gotta keep a promise

Stop it, watch it
Your time is ticking down, real sound
Til the bomb comes around
I'll lyrically profound
You're about to get clowned
Because when it ends, you'll be covered in shit




Published:
Don't bastardize the Greeks? You give me too much credit
Don't you know the Greeks discredited Greece, no credit?
Gonna feed you to milk ferret named Derick


It's 500 vs. 1 underneath the Sun
No contest I won, face it you're done
But this is just the beginning of my winning
As you sit clinging I'm still singing
Still standing, touch down, landing
On your metaphorical grave
But it's about to be literal
Kill you a second time, criminal
Mind gotta decide how to end this
Words rhyme as I'm running out of time
Time to live and time to die 
It's your time to die my guy

Every torture and beating
That's only me winning 
Getting stronger through suffering
Stronger than you will ever be 
Victory through every beating
Your power is receding 
Time to strike back in my counter attack
Raps so whack they lack 
Anything of substance 
Just hot air up there 
A hot air balloon going up in smoke
You're the Hindenburg falling like yoke
Oh the humanity! What a calamity
The true crime against humanity are your raps
Nothing but multiple craps

Yes I am the King of Dreams 
And my dream is that you'll never rap again
So don't be squeamish it's time to extinguish
This pest, sorry not sorry it's for the best
Worst than the rest, can attest
My time has ended but it is you who's finished

 
Added:
I have a huge google doc if. Copy and paste it from bio. I am planning to write more, I have been more focused on school and social stuff recently
Instigator
#28
Added:
--> @SupaDudz
Sweet! Would love to read some
Contender
#27
Added:
--> @That1User
I do poetry too!
Instigator
#26
Added:
--> @RationalMadman
Thanks for the in depth analyses RM. I do dabble in the poetic, happy you caught on to that, but this is my first actual rap battle
Contender
#25
Added:
oh shit my part 4/11 was cut short. I also deleted the google doc >.>
#24
Added:
--> @SupaDudz
It's for the badge. I only need 2 more votes for it.
#23
Added:
--> @Alec
Can you give a serious vote and actual read?
Instigator
#22
Added:
Supadudz our RO is over and if you feel too offended by my feedback, that's genuinely your issue. If you grudge-vote against me on my rap battle vs Ramshutu or elsewhere, at least justify it well. I'm not gonna pussyfoot around your emotions as it will hinder your improvement as a rapper.
#21
Added:
RFD Part 1/11
Something to bear in mind is how, despite there being a severe disparity in experience with rap that That1User was able to surpass SupaDudz in raw quality of wordplay and comprehension of rhyme-scheme. It is actually quite embarrassing for supadudz and he constantly refuses to take my advice on this matter but he consistently says things that DO NOT rhyme in any standard rap accent as the last parts of lines and it's not even in the middle of a consistent rhyme scheme as an exception, it's the only pairing of that rhyme at times, meaning it undeniably shames him as a rapper.
#20
Added:
RFD part 2/11
I will start with wordplay quality. This is both the metaphorical-stacking towards puns and the actual word used to be the punchline as opposed to synonyms of it. This is a skill that Nicki Minaj is a goddess at in rap and while she lacks in many other areas, wordplay quality is something she surpasses many, many rappers at by miles (she's on par with Eminem, the famous wordplay God). This is about quality more so than quantity.
This is the most severe category where That1 outshone SupaDudz. It is clear to me, also from another battle I did with That1, that T1U is used to poetry and good at wordplay and metaphorical stacking from a poetic point of view. SupaDudz struggles to understand the value of metaphors and his punchlines usually are 2-lines deep (which is very shallow) at all times. He tends to never, even once, build up a metahporical punch for 3+ lines and this costs him dearly.
I rank SupaDudz 11/30 in this category and T1U 19/30.
Both struggle to wordplay to any incredible degree and don’t see the value in sometimes bringing up a metaphor of several verses prior, in a later verse but it’s a secret thing that rappers like myself, eminem and Minaj love to do, it really lets the skill flourish to a more observant listener/reader.
#19
Added:
RFD part 3/11
Supadudz begins his rap calling T1U an ‘irrelevant peasant’ this was good enough flow to admire even though the leading part of the line was ‘who are you, who are you’... Lol… The issue is that following this he begins with ‘trying to act tough’ which in no way at all flows well, metaphorically (let alone syllable-wise) with ‘who are you, who are you’ and doesn’t even slide along from ‘irrelevant peasant’ if he’s going for a jittery rhyme-heavy flow. Then he rhymes ‘irrelevant peasant’ with ‘were really resistant’... only the ‘re’ and ‘tant’ remotely can be said to rhyme properly. ‘Were’ isn’t said as ‘where’ and I don’t know if this is some accent thing but ‘resistant and ‘ant peasant’ are also paced totally differently in most people’s accents, it is a very bad punchline to build up to. So the peasant isn’t ACTING resistant, they are REALLY resistant? This is followed by ‘posted it’ (as in challenge) and ‘take your lyrics and turn them into shit’ and neither of these 2 are linked to the peasant-metaphor nor to each other in any punchline-sense. They are both standalone-jibes. To follow up from how terrible T1U’s DART Career is, Dudz finishes off the verse with ‘pinned up against the fence’... Except that if T1U truly was terrified he/she wouldn’t have accepted the challenge in the first place and the fact a noob is willing to take you on itself is an insult to you. This is a very backfiring way to end Verse 1.
#18
Added:
RFD part 4/11
Why focus on Verse 1? This is a first impression a rapper gives the audience of the skill and style, you think Minaj is going to start a diss with weak bars like that? Fuck no, the entire bar will build up metaphors and similes with brutal elegance.
T1U enters weak as well rhyme-scheme wise but in terms of punchlines this already began to make me smirk in a somewhat impressed manner. “Row row row you got no flow” is a fantastic way to mock how dudz repeated ‘who are you’ in his first line and it’s even followed with ‘poor poor’ in the next line but the is
#17
Added:
RFD part 5/11
T1U’s highlights of wordplay are as follows:
“I'll keep trying as you keep dying
Taking you down till you go flying
Shooting you out of the sky
Cause it's duck season”
Leading into this punchline:
“You're dinner now
Eaten by a peasant
You just a pheasant“
The idea that Dudz is a lower quality being than T1U is even picked up very remotely in the next Verse:
“Your house is made of straw
One breathe and you will fall
Inhale, exhale, you will fail
Take you down wall to wall”
Now for more highlights:
“You're nothing but a Greek geek serving up grease away from Greece
Flying away like geese so it's time for you to cease before you decease”
The thing is, this backfires on the notion that he’s a poor man’s bird as goose is actually more expensive than duck, which was what you implied he wasn’t worthy of being in the verse mentioned earlier. This is why T1U isn’t a 25+/30 wordplay-user. Never backfire on a previous metaphor in the same rap battle. Shit like this matters to severely observant rap connoisseurs like myself.
Calling himself/herself King of Dreams more than once isn’t the same as ‘carrying’ a metaphor or simile across, since it’s the same phrase and isn’t wordplayed successfully the second time that it’s brought up.
Here’s another highlight of T1U’s wordplay/metaphor-stacking:
#16
Added:
RFD Part 6/11
"Victory through every beating
Your power is receding
Time to strike back in my counter attack
Raps so whack they lack
Anything of substance
Just hot air up there
A hot air balloon going up in smoke”
I don’t really get why you’d admit that his bars are ‘hot’ but I get the concept of him breathing hot air as opposed to ‘actual flames’ being the idea here. This was also playing the ‘smog’ line by Dudz back at him, I suppose. Saying you breathe dirtier and more fierce than he ever will.
It was also an elegant build-up flow-wise.
SupaDudz basically has no wordplay highlights because he always builds only across 2 lines and nothing more.
So, with wordplay out of the way, let’s analyse rhyme-scheme and flow.
The reason I like to always analyse these 2 together is because usually you get either a rhyme-scheme specialist, a flow specialist or a bad rapper. Rarely is an all-rounder good but they do exist (such as Chris Webby and Hopsin).
It’s very clear to me that neither of these rappers are close to being flow specialists. They don’t like sliding syllables in a brutal rhyme-scheme either. So… In terms of the technicalities of syllable-usage both are quite weak.
I would say that Dudz is weaker in both categories than T1U is because when Dudz doesn’t rhyme, it almost seems completely accidental every time, which makes it worse. T1U seems to build up to rhymes with non-rhyming lines in some kind of intentional off-kilter poet’s idea of a rhyme scheme.
#15
Added:
RFD Part 7/11
Score:
Rhyme-scheme intricacy:
Dudz - 7/30
T1U - 14/30
Flow fluidity:
Dudz - 3/30
T1U - 9/30
I don’t quite grasp Dudz’s style of rap when it comes to flow and rhyme-scheme. It’s like he’s not trying, at all. He listens to a lot of rap but unless he listens to trashy mumble rap I don’t understand how he can be spitting lines like:
“Who are you, who are you, some irrelevant peasant
Trying to act tough, when you were really resistant”
“You try to row the boat and catch some flow
But lyrically your rhymes were real shallow
And your just metaphor
Nothing less or nothing more
Don' get her hopes because of the comment
Now I'm about to be more deadly than malignant
Take off the fake face
Cause now your playing chase
Say that your duck hunting
But your shots ain't hitting”
I mean let’s stop there.
Dudz doesn’t try, at all, to make the inside of his rhymes flow well or rhyme with each other at all. Then we see he only ever seems to focus on the last syllable, like literally only that.
#14
#3
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Winner 1 point
Reason:
Both rappers did better then I could.
#2
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Winner 1 point
Reason:
RFD in comments.
#1
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Winner 1 point
Reason:
I felt Supa, on balance had the better rhymes, and a few better disses. T1 did make a shot at a little bit more complex structure and style, but I felt this was at a detriment to his rhyming and general flow.
“This isn't overwatch, you can't ask for any fucking healings
And my lyrics about to make you go Drake in his feelings”
“Failure like Zedong
Chances of winning, real long
My dick, real long, what a schlong”
We’re probably my favourite rhymes of the rap.
Saying that, both sides were close here, but supa just edges it.