Instigator / Pro
14
1521
rating
3
debates
83.33%
won
Topic
#56

Free Will Exists

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
6
0
Better sources
4
4
Better legibility
2
2
Better conduct
2
1

After 2 votes and with 7 points ahead, the winner is...

spacetime
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
30,000
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
7
1697
rating
556
debates
68.17%
won
Description

The burden of proof is on me (PRO).

"Free Will" is defined as "the capacity to exert conscious control over one's own actions."

No reasonable person believes in that definition of free will. Every free will advocate I know would concede that environmental factors exert causal influence over our decision-making processes. But the presence of that influence doesn't negate the existence of free will.

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@3RU7AL

I know.

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@RationalMadman

I'd suggest, "free will" is defined as "the capacity to make a decision that is free of all previous influence".

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@3RU7AL

look how he defines free will in the debate description above.

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@RationalMadman
@spacetime

The Standard Argument Against Free-Will (TSAAFW)

1) Determinism is incompatible with free-will (an inevitable outcome is not a willful choice).
2) Indeterminism is incompatible with free-will (a random or probabilistic outcome is not a willful choice).
3) No clever mix of the two solve either incompatibility.

Therefore, free-will is an incoherent concept.

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@RationalMadman

If you want a proper debate on free will I’ll gladly send you a challenge