The Hebrew tribes are extinct, therefor "Jews" are not a race but are in fact followers of a Hebrew race cult known as "Judaism"
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To prove the contention - pro has to provide evidence that there is no distinct racial grouping for Jews. The only real arguments provided for this, is that a particular ethnic group of Jews in Europe only has 3% genetics related to the Middle East.
On provides a link to a particular type of Iraqi Jew which appear to have the specific link that pro claims doesn’t exist.
The important aspect here is that if pro can use one subset of Jewish individuals to prove there is no race, I see no reason why con can’t do the same - especially when qualifying criteria of the resolution are not made clear for either side.
Given that neither side really makes clear what they define a race as; I have to detemine this on my own: and in my view cons final argument - that inherent genetic markers and ties to a particular region would necessarily be sufficient to determine race. As pro offers no such alternative - I have to side with con - though I would encourage con to raise this earlier in the debate.
As a result - arguments to con:
All other points tied.
I have to disagree, Type1 DOES sound like an anti-Semite. Saying that we Jews will merit Gentile slaves when Mashiach arrives... I’ve never heard more bogus in my life. A little Rambam could correct him, but I bet he wouldn’t even know who that was, or, if he does, wouldn’t care.
That’s how he comes off to me, I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t see any silver lining here.
Vote Reported: Coreyinthehouse // Mod Action: Removed
Points awarded: 5 points for arguments, conduct, and grammar
Reason for decision:
I hold KawaiiKame had been conduct because some of the statements by Type1 seems very biased against Jews as a whole, I'm not saying they're antisemetic by any means but they seem to have something against the culture seeing as they brought up "every Jew will have 1000 gentile slaves when the messiah comes." And "Even the so-called Jews that are atheists will get hyper aggressive and intellectually dishonest on you with 1984-like doublethink and blind rage" this is stereotyping them as a whole, and doesn't belong in debates IMO.
The grammar and spelling was a tie, as I didn't notice any issues in either side.
Both sources seem to be fairly reliable, however one slated by Type1 called establishing them as a race "dangerous."
This IMO, is ridiculous and therefore I hold Kame's are more valid. Establishing a religious descendancy as a race is far from dangerous, as what exactly determines race is gray in the first place. The only way this would be "dangerous" is if the religious itself was "dangerous."
Kame's arguments are more convincing IMO largely because he cites more reliable sources and references more facts.
Reason for mod removal: This vote fails to meet the COC vote standards