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Gouvernement de la Grèce

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Alec
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Round 1
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The Greek government is bad because they don't know how to manage their debt.  Most other countries that have debt(including the US) pay interest payments onto the debt, so their debt is under control.  This dis not true for Greece, who is costing the EU government a lot of money and is bringing down the value of the Euro.  


Round 2
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Extend all big boy arguments across the board.
Round 3
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Extend.
Round 4
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Extend.
Round 5
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Extend.
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How many debates on this site are forfeits?
Contender
#47
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The odds of someone accused of rape being innocent: 2-10%.
The odds of someone accused of murder being innocent: 4%.
If they are found to be innocent, they are freed and paid for their service and pain during their time as a slave. However, under my rule, the BoP for the prosecution would be huge because rape is a serious crime. Unless they have enough proof, the defendant doesn't get punished. I believe facts and evidence.
If innocent people are pretty much slaves in China and the UN doesn't kick China out, I don't think they will care about the US enslaving mostly guilty rapists.
I think the death penalty for being a false accuser is too harsh unless it was a repeated offence. Life imprisonment sounds better.
Contender
#46
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Rape: You ignored my example of the NFL Linebackers falsely accused of rape. He spent 6 years in prison before she admitted to faking it? And you wan't to go back to slavery for these people. This would cause moral issues and cause us to be kicked out of the UN. THis is just transforming us into a third world country
False accuser should be executed
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E Cigs: They are taxed less to encourage smokers to get off of conventional cigarettes, then to go to nicotine, and then to get off of the drug completely.
STDs: If you tax STDs, it encourages people to get their STDs treated, thereby helping the economy and improving society.
Rape: The punishment for rape should be life imprisonment as a slave in addition to having all your money taken away from you. They would also get castrated. On average, the revenue generated from the labor would total around $2 million. The rape victim gets $1 million of these. Only people convicted of rape that have enough proof brought up against them would suffer the punishment. There has to be enough proof for it to count. Rape is a serious crime and the punishment must be harsh.
Meat consumption: After doing some research, I think the meat tax is a bad idea. The other taxes seem fine though and you didn't mention most of the taxes.
That pie chart you saw showed what percentage of the taxes were sales taxes. Conservatives like sales taxes because almost everyone pays the tax. Liberals don't like these because they want the rich to pay for everything. The tax system has no income tax, no corporate tax, and no business tax. It punishes you for doing bad and neutral things that you know people will do instead of punishing you for doing good things. We need the money somehow. It sounds conservative to me. I hope the senate approves. I'll be surprised if they know it exists. It just needs popular support. If the taxes go gradually up, then people won't notice enough to create a significant black market.
Contender
#44
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Senate would not approve
#43
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Are you honestly a conservative? 77% of your taxes are left favored.
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E CIGS: You're just focusing on minors and non users. People actually use E CIGS to help there nicotine addiction and smoking
STD: STD's can be genetic. So your gonna tax people based of genetics? Also you are decreasing the freedom of literally fucking and having children
RAPE: Reports have been circling around false rape allegations. A future NFL 1st round pick was falsely convicted of rape and spent 6 years in jail under the person who confessed admitted to it.
COUNTER RAPE/CRIME
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I would tax someone for falsely accusing someone and being non guilty 18M dollars. I would tax all women convincing of false accusations 18M. I would charge Jessie Smollet 90M dollars
MEAT: Ok so just tax me for eating food, great. This just means meat would go into the black market and start a disease. Listen to my debate on why meat is vital to the human body
https://www.debate.org/debates/Is-it-ethical-to-kill-animals-when-there-are-other-options-available/1/
I have all my arguments why it is good in here
#41
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I can literally point out every flaw in the tax system too...omg omg omg
#40
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Let's let the Bloods and the Crips shoot each other on the South Side of Chicago then.
And the government doesn't fund education. It's private
#39
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The Greek debt is not on the decline(https://commodity.com/debt-clock/greece/). Neither is the American debt, but it is under control. I made a spending plan to get rid of the debt within 4 years.
Contender
#38
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I never said Greece can pay it's debt all off right now. I am saying there debt is currently on the decline
And also, $6T out of the $22T of the US debt is foreign based, which is at least 30%, that is significantly high for a country not associated with any sort of Continental Group like the EU.
#37
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If Greece can pay back their debt to the extent where it is manageable, why haven't they done so yet?
Not all debt is owed to foreign countries. Much of the US debt, the US owes to it's self by investors, bond holders, etc. America almost a "continental currency program" all by it's self since the US is roughly a similar size to the EU. America's Foreign debt to GDP ratio is within a manageable range. America has yet to default. If this was true for Greece, why did they default on their loan?
Contender
#36
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Please tell me how a country with a developing economy and tech industry take just hosted the Olympics can pay back their debts after a economic recession almost as bad as the Great Depression.
The US has more debt, which means they owe more to countries than Greece. America also isn't a part of a Continental Currency Program to fund for these things.
#35
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Then whose fault is it? I think it's the governmental policies that lead to their defaulting of the debt.
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#34
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Not their fault the economy crashed and EuroZone did not give them the proper funds to bounce back
#33
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Full forfeit
I disagree with this debate and even a little evidence would have pursuaded me to vote against
#4
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Reason:
Déclarer forfait
#3
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Reason:
Forfeiture.
#2
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Reason:
FF vote grab
#1
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
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Reason:
Full forfeit.