Instigator / Pro
6
1266
rating
119
debates
15.97%
won
Topic
#609

Bernie Sanders is better than Hillary Clinton

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
0
6
Better sources
4
4
Better legibility
2
2
Better conduct
0
2

After 2 votes and with 8 points ahead, the winner is...

oromagi
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
30,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
14
1922
rating
117
debates
97.44%
won
Description

No information

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Pros arguments are that Hillary is corrupt, that she was basically a Republican, and that her Policies wouldn’t change much.

Cons co need is that Hillary’s been investigated so much, there can’t be anything substantial there, and there could be with Bernie.

Con also pointed our corrupt presidents haven pretty good.

Con pointed out being centrist and mainstream isn’t bad. And as a result Hilary would be able to pass more of her agenda than Bernie.

Pros rebuttal is that Bernie hasn’t
Needed an investigation - and Hilary has.

Con argues that Bernie’s plans are actually unpopular when analyzed. He points out Bernie has been arrested, and the loan default investigation.

He points out that Hillary was being investigated by the GOP not for wrong doing, but for political reasons.

He points out weapon sales are normal.

Finally con points out that centrism is better than progressivism - as it allows legislation to be passed and goals to be met.

All this is unrefuted by pro - so arguments to con.

Conduct.

“fondling the wrinkled nutsack of war criminal super-beorgiosie psychopaths”

“Her policy is to fidget-fuck around with Obamacare and the shitty education system”

Pro is profane and rude throughout, and forfeited his round. Arguments to con.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Good debate! I liked Bernie more than Hilary in 2016, but Con made some really good points.

Pro claimed that Hillary is corrupt, a fake democrat only in it for power, and is too moderate to make changes. Their argument used a lot of Ad Hominem and conspiracy directed against her.

Con pointed convinced me that Bernie hasn't faced the same level of scrutiny as Hillary. They also convinced me of the value of small incremental change over time. The tax plan thing was a major point as well; I didn't realize Bernie's proposals came with such a massive increase in taxes.

Conduct: Pro forfeited the last half, so points to Con.