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Eminem is an Illuminati clone who is descended from Aliester Crowley

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oromagi
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Round 1
Forfeited
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Indeed, Crowley wrote that Mathers would play chess against the gods: Mathers always white against the deity's black.  Who won was never revealed!

Crowley wrote:

"As far as I was concerned, Mathers was my only link with the Secret Chiefs to whom I was pledged. I wrote to him offering to place myself and my fortune unreservedly at his disposal; if that meant giving up the Abra-Melin Operation for the present, all right."

The Confessions of Aleister Crowley. p. 194.
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--> @RationalMadman
Strawmanning me in the comment section, how arbitrary of you.
Whether or not I get medals for comments is irrelevant. My intention by making the comment is not to get a medal and that's all that matters. Stop being contrarian when it isn't warranted to do so and acknowledge true things when I say them please.
#7
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--> @Wrick-It-Ralph
Actually you are. Look at the gold, silver and bronze medals regarding comment-count. Your points are rooted in anecdotal and baseless assertion that I use hyperbole while you aren't understating.
#6
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--> @RationalMadman
While I think there is truth in what you're saying. I believe you're being a bit hyperbolic. We might get less dedicated debaters. But certainly the majority of debaters don't just come here for medals. This isn't candy crush. People come here because they have strong opinions that they want to express. Case and point, I'm not getting any medals for making this very point right now. Twilight Zone.
Furthermore, one could also make the argument that medals will also attract people who don't care about debating, but instead winning medals. This could lead to somebody vote rigging to try for the number 1 spot on the leaderboard.
I would say that in the end. The medals being on the website don't have a huge impact either way and it largely comes down to preference and what kind of people the website wants to attract.
#5
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intresting, ill consider it.
#4
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--> @Melcharaz
It would not. On the other hand, that would remove any motive to debate well and feel proud of doing so on this site any more than anywhere else on the Internet and thus the website would cease to be visited by passionate debaters looking for a 1v1 environment that the Internet doesn't otherwise provide with such a great reward system for the skill as this one.
#3
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intriguing. which raises a question for me, what if we didn't have stats or medals? would such behavior continue?
#2
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--> @RationalMadman
agreed. thx for voting.
Contender
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#4
Criterion Con Tie Pro Points
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Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Full Forfeit
#3
Criterion Con Tie Pro Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Full forfeit
#2
Criterion Con Tie Pro Points
Better arguments 3 points
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Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Oromagi is a cowards abusing an opponent being banned on three different debates. Just wanted him to know that. Conduct to Con for Pro being such a coward.
#1
Criterion Con Tie Pro Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Forfeiture