Instigator / Pro
21
1535
rating
7
debates
64.29%
won
Topic
#68

Quotas for women in high government positions should exist

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
9
9
Better sources
6
6
Better legibility
3
3
Better conduct
3
3

After 3 votes and with the same amount of points on both sides...

It's a tie!
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
30,000
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
21
1511
rating
3
debates
66.67%
won
Description

(1) I'm Pro; my opponent is Con.

(2) Burden of proof is shared.

(3) No new arguments in the final round.

(4) Character limited to 10,000 characters per speech (i.e. Pro gets 10,000 characters in Pro's R1, Con gets 10,000 characters in Con's R1, and so on) -- anything above 10,000 characters should not be considered by judges; if a speech exceeds 10,100 characters, it is an auto-loss for the debater whose speech exceeded that amount. Characters include spaces.

(5) Judges should award a tie on "sources," "conduct," and "spelling and grammar" points.

(6) For judges, DDO standards for "select winner" judging apply and RFDs are required for all votes. The standards are accessible here (http://www.debate.org/forums/Debate.org/topic/68208/).

(7) This debate does not take place in any particular country; however, neither debater is required to argue for or against this policy in extreme circumstances. I expect this debate to be a reasonable debate rather than one where the semantics of this topic are exploited (e.g. Con can't make an argument that says "Pro's plan would be harmful in North Korea").

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@DieserDeutscheTyp

Do you want to get this debate deleted?

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@spacetime

Well, nothing in this debate talks about the US. See rule 7.

That would mean, since the majority of nations in the world are developing, this debate primarily takes place in developing countries.

I do think it exists in developed countries such as the US too, though.

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@Tejretics

Oh it certainly exists in the developing world. But I don't see any convincing evidence that it exists in developed countries such as the United States.

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@spacetime

You don't view the existence of institutional sexism as a defensible position? Even in the developing world?

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@Tejretics

All those arguments seem to presume the continued existence of institutional sexism. I guess that's where the root cause of our disagreement lies.

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@RationalMadman

Yeah sure, I don't mind that.

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@Tejretics
@DieserDeutscheTyp

I will vote on this and will tie the votes so I get a voting point.

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@spacetime

I would've said: (1) This upholds the ethical principle of recompense for historic and current injustice. (2) Critical mass theory, i.e. more women represented in national legislatures leads to better policies for women. (3) This helps break stereotypes about whether women can be in positions of power. I think it's a very defensible position, and I was in favor of this before the debate and would've argued it if I had more time, though I'm now reconsidering my position and am undecided.

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@Tejretics

I'm really curious as to what your arguments would have been... I don't view this as a defensible position.