Points: 19

Rappp Battle

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After 4 votes the winner is ...
Wrick-It-Ralph
Debate details
Publication date
Last update
Category
Music
Time for argument
Three days
Voting system
Open voting
Voting period
One week
Point system
Four points
Rating mode
Rated
Characters per argument
30,000
Points: 14
Description
Arguments = Opinion
Sources = Puns, Metaphor, Wordplay.
Grammar = Rhymes per word on average.
Conduct = Any References to Oneself or opponent.
Round 1
Published:
Third times a charm I guess, do you ever rebuttal? (True)
I think that Rational's Mad Man and now he's in DEEPER trouble. (Sure)
He makes the same mistake three times, he'll be leaving Russia in rubble. (War Reference) 
His philosophy's only as deep as his google search bubble. (Literally)

If Sun Tzu, Napoleon, and Muhammad Ali, had a child. (Profile Quotes)
It would be like Rational M. , Out of it's mind and half wild. (Yup)
With all the arrogance and punchiness, and total like of style. (References to the three quoted people and RM at once)
Also with obsolete tactics, and the insight of a child. (More References to quoted)

I bet you like power laws, but also community progress. 
You're a walking paradox, ween yourself off of that nonsense. 
You can't have it both ways once you enter a broad sense. 
Just pick a path and stride it assuming you live right now, Hence

You should turn tail and run before I'm done have my fun. 
Cause when I'm finish this blunt.  I'm donning my logical gun. 
And shooting your fallacious dispositions right in the face son. 
That's a flawless victory scored gracefully in phase one. 
Published:
Beat to Loop (right-click the video, click 'Loop' and shut the fuck up): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VOytGak_4Q

Fuck it, I'm goin' raw, hammer this bitch, like Art o' War,
Sun Tzu, Bonapa-rte Ali infused with Thor,
Lightning comes with the thunder, plunder him, pillage his whores,
This Gimp ex-pimp elephant's may have a dick that's thick like his skull but he's roasted, poached and no more,
Poke holes in your arguments, debate-lord opens old sores, pour salt on, pissin' go kiss 'em dear dumb cumbersome herbivore. (elephant reference to his avatar)

You wanna know about boxing? Come take a jab at me,
Ali with the Tzu, laughs at your tactics without strategy,
Practise gettin' mad at me, perhaps you'll take a nap and see, that in actual fact I'm the alpha; you're a whack MC,
Beta hater making a Rap battle omega, where the short description says 'PLEASE RM DONT COME AND BATTLE ME!' (https://imgur.com/aVoCS6G)
I captivate the reader, come try have a grab at me, I'm the best debater here, fuck off with your fallacies.

Round 2
Published:
That's cute RM, you think you know about strategy? 
I'm a 300lb Martial Artist whose won multiple chess tourneys G. (fact)
I don't toy around with drawn out tactics that are riddled with fallacy. 
When I can use The QGA and a Sudo Strike to take you down both mentally and physically. (Chess and Martial Arts references.)

But you're so weak, I could beat you with The Fred Opening (Second worst chess opening.)
You're The fox in the hole (worst chess opening) looking fancy while doing not a thing.
You tactics fall, you see small holes but not the open wing. 
You're like a league player that doesn't understand the scope of pings. 

I'm talking down to you because that's the only language that defeatists speak.
Your potential's limitless, but you'll never get past your subjective peak.
I've tamed the beast, you could be this good consider this a leak.
But I keep on climbing, so you'll never reach me so your outlook's bleak.

I don't need a hero to quote, you need a least three.
Your potential's set in stone, every thought you borrow is not free.
It costs you progress while I stand here watching you implode with glee.
I'm a rolling stone, you're the logical equivalent of a tree.   
Published:

(openings) is the word typed and said as op'nin's.

Debris is pronounces deh-bree just to be clear.

Chess is a game where all the information is open,
The moment Kasparov's in Poker, oh shit the joker is chokin',
Tough bluffs so rough you're cut, ego broken,
Call when I got the nuts, dumb dunce ba-dum-dum five hearts flush your blood, from up there; junk cluttered brain, debris floatin',
You're a cumdump Ralph, can't ace-of-spades trump these poems, slick flow with potent prose wrings the neck of your rigid horse lyrics; this beast's free-floatin'.

If that aint enough then lets go in, Thor was my Round 1 pun, how bout now we bring the allfather Odin,
Bones brittle you little pitiful gimp, barely copin', I smite thee and I just might be the closest opponent of yours to omnip-o-tence,
Your hopeless chess op'nin's are just sugarcoatin' the growth of this opiate the masses are deepthroating,
I'm the God of the new religion, Poseidon to your Girl's cunt; what an ocean, Pagan Perseus versus one of many Medusa's victims, you're toast, son.
Round 3
Published:
More pagan gods? *Yawn* How underwhelming. 
Next you might tell me that there's some kind of "hell" thing. 
You must be the ugly third cousin of Van Helsing 
I could think of more convincing Gods while I was belching. 

You've been in my trap all along, you're a dangling rat. 
I actually got you to change your entire rap format. 
You gave up ground like you were a contentious doormat. 
I logically reduced you by simply projecting your poor stats.

You're young dumb, under my thumb, and now under control 
I numb this bum, as I hum, drum, and now I'm on a roll. 
You're just my chum, and I say Yum, to eating this blundering troll
The ballets I done I won, I'm the one who stomped, lets take another poll.

None of your imaginary pagan friends are coming to help thee. 
Your mythological dependency is probably not healthy. 
It hasn't given you the power that your crave and you're not wealthy. 
You might think your raps are subtle but you're really not stealthy. 
Published:

They tell me that you live in fear of no God,
Brave elephant, plomp plomp on the ground applaud,
Big fat herbivore, do you wanna lift your trunk and take my sword?
Dumb spitter o' lyrics so weak, I fuck your mother so hard my cock got cells from your umbilical cord,
Dad's been fuckin' all her holes it's just he never reached where I did; too soft like his son watch the cunt try grip his worm all shrivelled and short,
Telling me I'm a doormat, come step to the king I'm feelin' real bored, wipe that shoe on me, that all you got?-Jesus Christ would approve of your feeble belittling, oh what civil discourse,
I'm an imminent threat yes, I'm an invincible force, this tiger here sees a kitten in Wrick-it, lickin' its pretty lil paws,
Who in the hell are you kiddin' with this shrill whistle of yours? Blow a whistle vs my missiles incoming with precision, on course!
Added:
--> @oromagi
this guy gets me, lol.
Instigator
#21
Added:
--> @Melcharaz
duly noted. I am switching things up when I can. I just want to make sure that when I do it, it's for artistic reasons and not "merely" a voter appeal. So arbitrary switch = bad and style based switch = good and if those are both true then = good.
Rap logic :)
Thanks for the critiques.
Instigator
#20
Added:
--> @Wrick-It-Ralph
Alrighty, but don't be afraid to try new stuff! voters can adapt.
#19
Added:
--> @Melcharaz
I do that sometimes. My prewritten raps look more like strings of rapid rhymes.
One of my things is that I like to build up a story to tell and that forces me to cut back on the rhymes a bit.
Another part of my format as audience consideration. I want it to be easy to read.
Honestly, it doesn't matter how the words are blocked out per se. I made that example in a rap battle against RM actually. His rhymes are more or less structured like mine with two key differences.
A) He puts whole stanzas in a giant string of one or two lines.
B) He doesn't have any standards for a rhyme scheme per se and just kind of spits and plops rhymes down to fit his taste.
I know my stuff looks like I'm just writing stuff and plopping rhymes at the end, but I can assure you that's not always the case. Yes, I do that when I'm story telling my rap, but I also do it knowing in advance which words I want to rhyme and I try to set the story up to compliment those rhymes.
But I can also go the other way just as easily.
For example
"You're-blaming-and-flaming-the-voters-while-claiming-that-we-must-be-insane-to-not-accept-your-reign-and-hopping-on-the-train-of-RM-feigning-fame-retaining-off-your-name-while-failing-what-a-shame."
This was from my most recent battle that I'm still in with RM. I do a long string of rhymes, but notice how I still try to have a theme behind the rhymes. This is key for me personally because I like to tell stories and I mostly rap for my subjective enjoyment, although I love crowds too :)
But yeah, I just wanted to cover that because I think people think I don't mix it up just because I format my bars. I do that to make it easy for the voters to read and for me to reread. With that said. I am slave to certain patterns that's not an arbitrary critique that the voters have been giving. I consider it duly.
Instigator
#18
Added:
--> @Wrick-It-Ralph
Don't be afraid to mix it up! you make rhymes within the sentence structure as well as at the end of it. Example
Tony chewed up the boy like pepperoni and started dissing on his ability
Reconstructing arguments in the events of mitigated liability
#17
Added:
--> @Ramshutu
I guess I'm losing my new rapper smell, lol. thanks for the votes as always.
Instigator
#16
Added:
--> @Wrick-It-Ralph
thanks
#15
Added:
--> @Virtuoso
solid counterbomb. respect
Instigator
#14
Added:
--> @Virtuoso
Please cvb Type1 so he can do it on his alt?
Contender
#13
Added:
--> @RationalMadman
conspiracy theories are fun.
Instigator
#12
Added:
--> @Wrick-It-Ralph
LOL!
Contender
#11
Added:
After reading your rap. I am now convinced that Type 1 is your alt account.
Instigator
#10
Added:
and Boolean I guess
Instigator
#9
Added:
I speak, English, Spanish, and elephant.
Instigator
#8
Added:
LOL!!!!!!!!!
Contender
#7
#4
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
opinion to Pro- specific critique trumps generic critique. Pro gets Con better than Con gets Pro.
"philosophy's only as deep as his google search" strategists, pagan gods, defeatist, subjective.
wordplay to Con- more complex wordplay "omnip-o-tence" more evocative imagery "this opiate the masses deep throatin," elephant, etc.
rhyme- Pro's degree of difficulty far outweighed Cons, at moments close to actual verse
"I'm talking down to you because that's the only language that defeatists speak.
Your potential's limitless, but you'll never get past your subjective peak.
I've tamed the beast, you could be this good consider this a leak.
But I keep on climbing, so you'll never reach me so your outlook's bleak."
You've been in my trap all along, you're a dangling rat.
I actually got you to change your entire rap format.
You gave up ground like you were a contentious doormat.
I logically reduced you by simply projecting your poor stats.
You're young dumb, under my thumb, and now under control
I numb this bum, as I hum, drum, and now I'm on a roll.
You're just my chum, and I say Yum, to eating this blundering troll
The ballets I done I won, I'm the one who stomped, lets take another poll.
pretty solid stanzas.

reference- Pro was more specific and insightful regarding Con's character, while Con just riffed on elements offered by Pro
#3
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Counter vote bomb
#2
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
RM sucks and I am going to wreck his elo
#1
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
R1 is average other than this:
“You should turn tail and run before I'm done have my fun. 
Cause when I'm finish this blunt.  I'm donning my logical gun. 
And shooting your fallacious dispositions right in the face son. 
That's a flawless victory scored gracefully in phase one. “
Rm started well with “Fuck it, I'm goin' raw, hammer this bitch, like Art o' War,
Sun Tzu, Bonapa-rte Ali infused with Thor,” then the insults went off the rails and seemed to wander off into bizarre land.
The remainder is okay.
R2: pros insults are clever - I like the chess references but aren’t zingers. Rm again starts out with a strong opening line, and appears to degenerate into the dart rap battle equivalent of mumble rap. It’s seems geared up to make a clever rhyme, rather than to make sense as an insult.
R3 was more fun “You've been in my trap all along, you're a dangling rat. 
I actually got you to change your entire rap format. 
You gave up ground like you were a contentious doormat. 
I logically reduced you by simply projecting your poor stats. “
A mediocre rhyme combo section to be fair - it fell kinda flat before this:
“None of your imaginary pagan friends are coming to help thee. 
Your mythological dependency is probably not healthy. 
It hasn't given you the power that your crave and you're not wealthy. 
You might think your raps are subtle but you're really not stealthy.”
Not the funniest line ever told, but ups over the average of this debate so far.
RMs final round was all “I banged your mum” type insults that were the same as RM always is, using the word herbivore again. The last round is just the same as the others. No punchy insults, nothing really that interesting other than the umbilical cord reference.
I felt that WIRs quality was lower than some of his other rap battles, not as much punch as before, but RM just hasn’t found his form. He took on 18 concurrent debates - and the lack of time and effort spent shows.
This one was closer than other, so I’m not going to award arguments - but just points for word play to WIR, don’t feel that the victory is worth more than 2 points.