Instigator / Pro
19
1402
rating
44
debates
40.91%
won
Topic
#689

Rappp Battle

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
9
6
Better sources
4
4
Better legibility
3
2
Better conduct
3
2

After 4 votes and with 5 points ahead, the winner is...

Wrick-It-Ralph
Tags
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
30,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
14
1697
rating
556
debates
68.17%
won
Description

Arguments = Opinion
Sources = Puns, Metaphor, Wordplay.
Grammar = Rhymes per word on average.
Conduct = Any References to Oneself or opponent.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

opinion to Pro- specific critique trumps generic critique. Pro gets Con better than Con gets Pro.
"philosophy's only as deep as his google search" strategists, pagan gods, defeatist, subjective.

wordplay to Con- more complex wordplay "omnip-o-tence" more evocative imagery "this opiate the masses deep throatin," elephant, etc.

rhyme- Pro's degree of difficulty far outweighed Cons, at moments close to actual verse

"I'm talking down to you because that's the only language that defeatists speak.
Your potential's limitless, but you'll never get past your subjective peak.
I've tamed the beast, you could be this good consider this a leak.
But I keep on climbing, so you'll never reach me so your outlook's bleak."

You've been in my trap all along, you're a dangling rat.
I actually got you to change your entire rap format.
You gave up ground like you were a contentious doormat.
I logically reduced you by simply projecting your poor stats.

You're young dumb, under my thumb, and now under control
I numb this bum, as I hum, drum, and now I'm on a roll.
You're just my chum, and I say Yum, to eating this blundering troll
The ballets I done I won, I'm the one who stomped, lets take another poll.

pretty solid stanzas.

reference- Pro was more specific and insightful regarding Con's character, while Con just riffed on elements offered by Pro

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Counter vote bomb

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

RM sucks and I am going to wreck his elo

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

R1 is average other than this:

“You should turn tail and run before I'm done have my fun. 
Cause when I'm finish this blunt.  I'm donning my logical gun. 
And shooting your fallacious dispositions right in the face son. 
That's a flawless victory scored gracefully in phase one. “

Rm started well with “Fuck it, I'm goin' raw, hammer this bitch, like Art o' War,
Sun Tzu, Bonapa-rte Ali infused with Thor,” then the insults went off the rails and seemed to wander off into bizarre land.

The remainder is okay.

R2: pros insults are clever - I like the chess references but aren’t zingers. Rm again starts out with a strong opening line, and appears to degenerate into the dart rap battle equivalent of mumble rap. It’s seems geared up to make a clever rhyme, rather than to make sense as an insult.

R3 was more fun “You've been in my trap all along, you're a dangling rat. 
I actually got you to change your entire rap format. 
You gave up ground like you were a contentious doormat. 
I logically reduced you by simply projecting your poor stats. “

A mediocre rhyme combo section to be fair - it fell kinda flat before this:

“None of your imaginary pagan friends are coming to help thee. 
Your mythological dependency is probably not healthy. 
It hasn't given you the power that your crave and you're not wealthy. 
You might think your raps are subtle but you're really not stealthy.”

Not the funniest line ever told, but ups over the average of this debate so far.

RMs final round was all “I banged your mum” type insults that were the same as RM always is, using the word herbivore again. The last round is just the same as the others. No punchy insults, nothing really that interesting other than the umbilical cord reference.

I felt that WIRs quality was lower than some of his other rap battles, not as much punch as before, but RM just hasn’t found his form. He took on 18 concurrent debates - and the lack of time and effort spent shows.

This one was closer than other, so I’m not going to award arguments - but just points for word play to WIR, don’t feel that the victory is worth more than 2 points.