Instigator / Pro
9
1403
rating
16
debates
21.88%
won
Topic
#715

The F-22 Is Better Than The F-35

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
3
3
Better sources
4
4
Better legibility
2
2
Better conduct
0
2

After 2 votes and with 2 points ahead, the winner is...

RationalMadman
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Type
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Number of rounds
5
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
30,000
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
11
1687
rating
555
debates
68.11%
won
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@Scott_Manning

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Vote Reported: Scott_Manning // Mod Action: Removed

Points awarded: 3 points to pro for arguments, 1 point to con for arguments

RFD: I absolutely agree with Ramshutu. I would also like to say that I think Con screwed up a bit at the better at crashing part.

Reason for mod action: (1) The voter must assess the content of the debate and only the debate, any reasoning based on arguments made or information given outside of the debate rounds is unacceptable. This includes reasoning that stems from already-placed votes, comment sections, and separate forums. Votes that impermissibly factor in outside content and which are reported will be removed. In this case, the voter relies on Ramshutu's vote, which is forbidden. (2) Finally, the conduct point is not explained. In order to award conduct, the voter must:

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@Joshua_Stebold

He technically wrote " "

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@RationalMadman

How did you manage to publish nothing at all?

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@RationalMadman

Better at crashing?! Are you feeling alright? You need a doctor?

Forgive me if I put up too many sites.

I like this topic because it has to do with public policy and is a subject I've never really researched. I bet the questions involved in fighter jet design and engineering are fascinating. If I was debating this, however, I'd be tempted to go after the weakness of "better than." Better for who? Not better for ISIS fighters or Yemeni villagers. And aren't we comparing apples and oranges? The F-35 is an air/ground attack vehicle, the F-22 is an air/air attack vehicle. The F-22 is designed to beat a plane like the F-35.

A plane with 2005 avionics vs one with mid to late 2010s avionics?