Instigator / Pro
15
1500
rating
16
debates
40.63%
won
Topic
#740

Trump is NOT Racist: Change my Mind

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
3
9
Better sources
6
6
Better legibility
3
3
Better conduct
3
3

After 3 votes and with 6 points ahead, the winner is...

Speedrace
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
5
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
30,000
Voting period
Two months
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
21
1641
rating
63
debates
65.08%
won
Description

I will pretty much waive the first round and con will start the arguments off. BoP will be on con to prove that Trump IS racist, in present day.

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@TheRealNihilist

I said I wouldn't be judgy or be cheap. I'm not that type of guy who does that just to win a debate K bye

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@Speedrace

Because I didn't wan't confusion in the debate and arguments like "you didn't say that in description.." etc. Just wanted to clarify

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@Our_Boat_is_Right

"anti-intellectual"
You gave no number but gave the word "recent" and you call me the "anti-intellectual". Incapable of knowing recent is dependent on what the person thinks it is given the scenario.

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@Our_Boat_is_Right

I accept, but why did you have to wait to waive for me to say that? You could have asked in the round...

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@TheRealNihilist

Can you read? I don't think you realize how anti-intellectual you are being right now. Read the comment again. I said "In fairly recent years, I won't be judgy." Lets say reasonable examples within the past 10 years. However, If it is past that, I won't be too strict and use the "was" and "is" argument. I don't think speedrace would do later ones like that anyway, given he gace the pochohantas example in recent years.

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@Our_Boat_is_Right

"I would never be that ridiculous and cheap to need racist examples in this present moment. As long as it is fairly recent, I won't be judgy."
What in numbers and words would you say is "fairly recent"?

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@TheRealNihilist

You should probably read the comments before you comment. Look 6 comments before your's, I have already clarified this.

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@Speedrace

accept/understand it

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@Speedrace

I'm asking if you accept that rule.

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@Our_Boat_is_Right

Can you stop commenting long enough to waive? Pls?

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@Our_Boat_is_Right

"in present day."
What do you mean?
Right now?
Last week?
This month?
This year?
This debate is unfair and since Death23 is beating you in the other debate you want to go down to a specific that you think can win.

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@oromagi

Do you accept my previous comment, "Oh I also forgot to mention in the description you will waive the last round..(meant to put it after I said I would waive the first round) are you accepting of this rule?"

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@Death23

Stop putting words in my mouth. I already clarified this.

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@Death23

Salty?

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@oromagi

Unless there's a live video feed of Trump doing something racist Con has failed to prove that Trump is racist.

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@oromagi

Oh I also forgot to mention in the description you will waive the last round..(meant to put it after I said I would waive the first round) are you accepting of this rule?

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@oromagi

That last debate I was genuinely debating the rules, which there was clearly miscommunication on. Examples within recent years would be fine to prove Trump is racist. I would never be that ridiculous and cheap to need racist examples in this present moment. As long as it is fairly recent, I won't be judgy. The pochohontas example would be a fine example and I wouldn't contend the validity of it. Wanna debate now?

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@Our_Boat_is_Right

I don't know, Boat. There's a good debate to be had here but looking at your first debate makes me think you don't intend to argue the facts. You concede that Trump was a racist in many prior circumstances but insist that your opponent establish that Trump is racist today. So if Trump tweets out another Trail of Tears joke or calls Warren Pocahantas today, will you just wait until early tomorrow to declare Trump's slate clean? Your hedged approach to the subject suggests to me that you also believe Trump is racist: change my mind, racist today, BoP on Con. If you believe that Trump that is not racist and have good arguments to defend that position, I would encourage you to make a debate that asserts just that: Trump is not a racist, here is my proof- let's see how Con disputes my position. I think you will find more takers for that debate because I think that would be a very difficult debate to win.

Someone accept plz.

Someone accept plz.

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@Death23

You talking to me? I strictly don't agree with that, and I know personally Trump isn't racist, but I can't bring that up when debating.

I take it then that you agree that it's more likely than not that Trump is racist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao3XJ-UDdzI