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do you believe evolution
- Obviously, there must be a designer/shaper or group thereof.
- There must be sufficient signs within the simulated reality (or created real, physical reality) that implies the creation is intelligently designed as opposed to either being chaotically undesigned or relatively low-to-medium intelligibly designed.
Intelligent design (ID) is the view that it is possible to infer from empirical evidence that "certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection" [1] Intelligent design cannot be inferred from complexity alone, since complex patterns often happen by chance. ID focuses on just those sorts of complex patterns that in human experience are produced by a mind that conceives and executes a plan. According to adherents, intelligent design can be detected in the natural laws and structure of the cosmos; it also can be detected in at least some features of living things.Greater clarity on the topic may be gained from a discussion of what ID is not considered to be by its leading theorists. Intelligent design generally is not defined the same as creationism, with proponents maintaining that ID relies on scientific evidence rather than on Scripture or religious doctrines. ID makes no claims about biblical chronology, and technically a person does not have to believe in God to infer intelligent design in nature. As a theory, ID also does not specify the identity or nature of the designer, so it is not the same as natural theology, which reasons from nature to the existence and attributes of God. ID does not claim that all species of living things were created in their present forms, and it does not claim to provide a complete account of the history of the universe or of living things.
What is Darwin's Theory of Evolution?By Ker Than, Live Science Contributor | February 26, 2018 08:57pm ETThe theory of evolution by natural selection, first formulated in Darwin's book "On the Origin of Species" in 1859, is the process by which organisms change over time as a result of changes in heritable physical or behavioral traits. Changes that allow an organism to better adapt to its environment will help it survive and have more offspring.Evolution by natural selection is one of the best substantiated theories in the history of science, supported by evidence from a wide variety of scientific disciplines, including paleontology, geology, genetics and developmental biology.The theory has two main points, said Brian Richmond, curator of human origins at the American Museum of Natural History in New York City. "All life on Earth is connected and related to each other," and this diversity of life is a product of "modifications of populations by natural selection, where some traits were favored in and environment over others," he said.More simply put, the theory can be described as "descent with modification," said Briana Pobiner, an anthropologist and educator at the Smithsonian Institution National Museum of Natural History in Washington, D.C., who specializes in the study of human origins.The theory is sometimes described as "survival of the fittest," but that can be misleading, Pobiner said. Here, "fitness" refers not to an organism's strength or athletic ability, but rather the ability to survive and reproduce.For example, a study on human evolution on 1,900 students, published online in the journal Personality and Individual Differences in October 2017, found that many people may have trouble finding a mate because of rapidly changing social technological advances that are evolving faster than humans. "Nearly 1 in 2 individuals faces considerable difficulties in the domain of mating," said lead study author Menelaos Apostolou, an associate professor of social sciences at the University of Nicosia in Cyprus. "In most cases, these difficulties are not due to something wrong or broken, but due to people living in an environment which is very different from the environment they evolved to function in." [If You Suck at Dating, It's Not You — It's Evolution]Origin of whalesIn the first edition of "On the Origin of Species" in 1859, Charles Darwin speculated about how natural selection could cause a land mammal to turn into a whale. As a hypothetical example, Darwin used North American black bears, which were known to catch insects by swimming in the water with their mouths open:"I can see no difficulty in a race of bears being rendered, by natural selection, more aquatic in their structure and habits, with larger and larger mouths, till a creature was produced as monstrous as a whale," he speculated.The idea didn't go over very well with the public. Darwin was so embarrassed by the ridicule he received that the swimming-bear passage was removed from later editions of the book.Scientists now know that Darwin had the right idea but the wrong animal. Instead of looking at bears, he should have instead been looking at cows and hippopotamuses.The story of the origin of whales is one of evolution's most fascinating tales and one of the best examples scientists have of natural selection.Natural selectionTo understand the origin of whales, it's necessary to have a basic understanding of how natural selection works. Natural selection can change a species in small ways, causing a population to change color or size over the course of several generations. This is called "microevolution."But natural selection is also capable of much more. Given enough time and enough accumulated changes, natural selection can create entirely new species, known as "macroevolution." It can turn dinosaurs into birds, amphibious mammals into whales and the ancestors of apes into humans.Take the example of whales — using evolution as their guide and knowing how natural selection works, biologists knew that the transition of early whales from land to water occurred in a series of predictable steps. The evolution of the blowhole, for example, might have happened in the following way:Random genetic changes resulted in at least one whale having its nostrils placed farther back on its head. Those animals with this adaptation would have been better suited to a marine lifestyle, since they would not have had to completely surface to breathe. Such animals would have been more successful and had more offspring. In later generations, more genetic changes occurred, moving the nose farther back on the head.Other body parts of early whales also changed. Front legs became flippers. Back legs disappeared. Their bodies became more streamlined and they developed tail flukes to better propel themselves through water.Darwin also described a form of natural selection that depends on an organism's success at attracting a mate, a process known as sexual selection. The colorful plumage of peacocks and the antlers of male deer are both examples of traits that evolved under this type of selection.But Darwin wasn't the first or only scientist to develop a theory of evolution. The French biologist Jean-Baptiste Lamarck came up with the idea that an organism could pass on traits to its offspring, though he was wrong about some of the details. Around the same time as Darwin, British biologist Alfred Russel Wallace independently came up with the theory of evolution by natural selection.
The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection. Through the study and analysis of a system’s components, a design theorist is able to determine whether various natural structures are the product of chance, natural law, intelligent design, or some combination thereof. Such research is conducted by observing the types of information produced when intelligent agents act. Scientists then seek to find objects which have those same types of informational properties which we commonly know come from intelligence. Intelligent design has applied these scientific methods to detect design in irreducibly complex biological structures, the complex and specified information content in DNA, the life-sustaining physical architecture of the universe, and the geologically rapid origin of biological diversity in the fossil record during the Cambrian explosion approximately 530 million years ago.
The theory of intelligent design simply says that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.
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the creator of the predators gave these animals big sharp teeth
the creator of the mountain goat gave the goat special feet that make it easier to mountain climb.
The Austrian monk Gregor Mendel (1822-1884) was the first person to describe how traits are inherited from generation to generation. He studied how pea plants inherited traits such as color and smoothness, and discovered that traits are inherited from parents in certain patterns.
Darwin's concept of natural selection was based on several key observations:
- Traits are often heritable. In living organisms, many characteristics are inherited, or passed from parent to offspring. (Darwin knew this was the case, even though he did not know that traits were inherited via genes.)
- More offspring are produced than can survive. Organisms are capable of producing more offspring than their environments can support. Thus, there is competition for limited resources in each generation.
- Offspring vary in their heritable traits. The offspring in any generation will be slightly different from one another in their traits (color, size, shape, etc.), and many of these features will be heritable.
This was much closer than it should have been.
Pros entire argument, put charitably is made up of arguing that there isn’t a great explanation, or that there are unknowns related to a naturalistic origin of life, and that the apparent matching of organisms to their environment, together with ways in which the environment and natural objects can benefit humans is evidence for a divine creator.
This on its face meets initial burden of proof but only due to it seeming a reasonably intuitive proposition. The argument itself doesn’t seem strong, and appears a clear argument from ignorance
Cons follow up, with a short explanation of evolution; this argument is minimal and doesn’t go into a great deal of detail, but does appear to answer at a high level pros contention.
IE: if pro doesn’t know why these aspects of life can originate, the well accepted theory of evolution is a valid explanation.
The remainder of pros argument is largely the same, and is answered by cons opening argument.
With the exception of where pro argues that evolution is a failed theory, with made up frauds.
Con completely drops this argument and doesn’t reference it at all, and simply resorts to saying his opening arguments apply.
Con does dodge a bullet here, however, as pro doesn’t really go into any depth or provide explanation as to why these examples negate evolution as a whole: in my view even if accept the individual points, or doesn’t invalidate evolution. If pro had explained why evolution should be thrown out based on these examples - then con would have lost.
As pro doesn’t offer a substantial argument to overturn the explanation of evolution - even though that explanation wasn’t particularly detailed, or justified: evolution holds, and arguments go to con.
Conduct to con for the forfeit.
>>lets say i stand in the water a little lake and over millions of years my feat adapted and turned into frog legs. what caused my feat to turn into frog was it the water. there is nothing there that would cause my feat to turn into frog legs. so how could that happen
That isn't how evolution works. If you, and say, 1000 other humans all stood around in that lake for millions of generations, and never breeded with or had interactions with other humans, then, while you would never see a change, when compared to your younger ancestor millions of years later, you would see a reasonable change that makes the newest generation more fit. You wouldn't see frog legs as feet, as that would probably not help, but you would see smaller feet, longer legs, and stronger swimming muscles.
Also, a human would be a bad example for this, as the intelligence we have evolved would suit us for almost all environments and let us adapt intuitively and quickly. If you took, instead, an actual frog, and put it in that lake with a bunch of others of the same species, but isolated it from the rest of the species, then those frogs would eventually produce a generation that fits the environment of the lake as well as possible.
Also, others dying out isn't the only way species evolve. There is also a case of not being able to breed as often. Dogs that shed in the summer and gain hair in the winter are best fit for the current season, and because of that, they get benefits:
1.) Become stronger than dogs burdened by a heavy coat in the heat
2.) Eat more and better with the adapted coat helping them catch food by not tiring them as much
3.) freeze to death less
4.) Generally become stronger and more fit than dogs that don't shed.
Not to insult, but this is taught in 9th grade biology thoroughly and is very certainly not a myth.
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