Instigator / Con
12
1555
rating
12
debates
66.67%
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Topic

If God were immaterial, God therefore would not exist.

Status
Finished

All stages have been completed. The voting points distribution and the result are presented below.

Arguments points
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15
Sources points
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10
Spelling and grammar points
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5
Conduct points
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5

With 5 votes and 23 points ahead, the winner is ...

Dustandashes
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Religion
Time for argument
Two days
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Open voting
Voting period
One week
Point system
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1495
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~ 193 / 5,000

Round 1: Opening Arguments.
Round 2: Rebuttals.
Round 3: Rejoinders.
Round 4: (Double) Rejoinders.
Round 5: Closing Arguments.

Stipulations:

Definition of exist: to be (Cambridge Dictionary.)

Added:
Contender
--> @Athias

I think you're on the right track, I don't know if I would have used shapes as evidence for the immaterial. Numbers can work. Where can I find "twelveness" in nature? Those analogies have their limits though. If I was trying to disprove materialism I might have gone with something like logic. The concept of logic by necessity must be immaterial for it to function at all. We could discuss that more if you'd like. Or I would bring up moral truths as examples of immaterial realities, that's always fun. Can altruism be weighed? Can you look at justice with a microscope...where in nature is the truth that you shouldn't murder people? Can that truth be experienced with the five senses? Are those truths made of particles? You get the idea. Just some more ammunition for future debates with real materialists.

Added:
Instigator
--> @Dustandashes

My apologies for my forfeit. I grossly overestimated the time I had available to respond. It's up to you: we can end the debate here, and allow my forfeit to determine the outcome, or we can pick up where we left off in Round 3. Either decision is fine.

Added:
--> @Dustandashes

Lol nice alter ego dude

Added:
--> @Athias

'semantic realm' of reality is something I came up with in my anti-materialism debate. I'm impressed to see that this (and not consciousness) is how you defeated it.