Instigator / Pro
Points: 28

Role Playing debate, Alex Jones (Pro) VS Bernie Sanders (Con) on social democracy VS "Laissez Fair" capitalism

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After 6 votes the winner is ...
Sparrow
Debate details
Publication date
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Category
People
Time for argument
Three days
Voting system
Open voting
Voting period
One week
Point system
Four points
Rating mode
Rated
Characters per argument
30,000
Contender / Con
Points: 26
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Round 1
Published:
Howdy folks, it's your host Alex Jones, and you're listening to the absolute tip of the spear magnum opus of independent news journalism. Now I haven't even had my Bulletproof coffee this morning, and we let our guest try some Brain Force so I'm already at a disadvantage here. I'm not plugging folks, but please buy the products at infowarslife.com it really helps fund the operation, great 360 triple win deals folks.
But ANYWAY, I'm super excited about the guest we have on today, this is no doubt going to be a ground breaking interview. Ladies and gentlemen, we have Marxist, globalist, devil worshiper and child molester Bernie Sanders with us today.

Now senator, everyone with half a brain knows that capitalism has produced more wealth and abundance, the lowest poverty rates, just astounding levels of freedom and prosperity. Meanwhile in socialist countries like Venezuela and Nazi Germany the economy is always an absolute mess, the healthcare system, the education you name it.




And and and and and it just makes no sense to me senator, why would you want to ruin economic freedom and prosperity?

Published:
Listen folks.  The Billionaires and Trillionaires that run this country got all the money.  The working class needs that money.  We need to take that money and give it to the working class.  

They got the healthcare, we need to take that healthcare and give it to the working class. 

They got mansions.  We need to take those mansions, and give them to the working class. 

How many mansions does a person need? 


I have been fighting for civil rights since your grandfather was in your great grandfather's scrotum. 

Capitalism is alright, but only if we give the money to the working class. 


Round 2
Published:
So what you're saying is you want to raise taxes on the wealthy and give free stuff to the working class, but what you're not mentioning is that you also want to raise taxes on the working class. So when you say "capitalism is fine" you are basically saying "capitalism is fine as long as we don't have a free market" because you want to turn everything into a state run bureaucracy rather than a consensual transaction where at least people are allowed to vote with their dollar and choose what they want to spend money on. Your idea is to keep the working class poor by taxing them through their ass and out their nose but make them reliant on the state so that they never become entrepreneurs and they never rise above and surmount their current station in the class hierarchy and quite frankly I think that what you're doing is Satanic and Fascist.

Neo-Marxists like you are always talking about equality and how you just want to help the poor  but you conveniently leave out the fact that you're promoting an ideology that has killed millions and resulted in CATASTROPHIC ECONOMIC MELTDOWNS  every time it's implemented. What makes you any different from Hitler if you want the state to run everything?

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL NOT STAND FOR IT SANDERS, DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME? I AM GOING TO MUTILATE AND DISMEMBER YOU POLITICALLY

Excuse me, but it really pisses me off. Now I've been ranting and yelling, but I want you to tell me what is the ulterior motive, the the the....hidden agenda....the the the the the....I have a big vocabulary folks.

The POINT is, what is the part of your vision for America that you're NOT telling us?


Published:
Who said anything about taxes?  no no no no no. 

We take the money... and we move it around.  Who needs all those mansions? 
Round 3
Published:
See, now you're lying Mr. Sanders and I DON'T LIKE LIARS GOD DAMN IT

YOU SIT HERE AND BITCH ABOUT THE WORKING CLASS BUT YOU'RE LYING TO THEM THROUGH YOUR TEETH, PROMISING THEM HANDOUTS WHILE YOU PLAN TO TAX THEM OUT THEIR ASS, AND NOW IM PISSED (slams on desk while screaming and then growls like a hound with rabies)


STOP BEING A BRAIN DEAD SOCIALIST, STOP LYING TO US, DONTDOITDONTDOITDONTDOIT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH (knocks over drink and microphone while screaming)
Published:
Whaa?  Did someone Yell? I think I hard someone Yell?  Whateva!! 


So the people... need... Medical... Let's get some medicals on a plane and drop them on to the people *whispering* I mean off to the people.  The rich need to pay their fair share.  Which is ALL OF IT.  


Who needs all those mansions? 
Added:
Funny
#18
Added:
This is the best debate I've ever seen.
I AM GOING TO MUTILATE YOU POLITICALLY
#17
Added:
--> @Virtuoso
1st RFD:
Arguments: Sparrow
His opponent said that the rich don't need many mansions and that the rich should help reduce poverty by giving money to the poor with the government's help. He said that this wasn't a tax even though it is. Sparrow said that capitalism reduces poverty and anytime socialism has been tried, it fails. Con drops this point.
Sources: Sparrow. He cites the daily wire and info wars. They aren't reliable, but it's better then what Wrick It Ralph cited.
Spelling and Grammer: Wrick It Ralph. In Round 2, he used all caps. This is extremely poor spelling.
Conduct: Wrick it Ralph. Sparrow called him a fascist in round 2. This is poor conduct.
Is it good?
#16
Added:
--> @oromagi
Nice vote.
Contender
#15
Added:
--> @oromagi
I don't care and neither does debart, lol. Go nuts. This is a troll debate. Release your inner troll!!
Contender
#14
Added:
--> @RationalMadman, @Wrick-It-Ralph
You'd be grumpy too if RatMan's debates had unexpectedly become a daily reading requirement. So- are we supposed to judge arguments, impersonation, both, or don't care?
#13
Added:
--> @RationalMadman
holy crap, you did say stalin.
Contender
#12
Added:
--> @Wrick-It-Ralph
Well this one time he was correct, I thought this was Hitler vs Stalin. He does have a grudge but it's a lot more to do with him than me.
#11
Added:
--> @RationalMadman
Man. I use to think you were being hyperbolic. But Ramshutu really is out to get you isn't he? What did you do to him to cause him to dedicate his life to downvoting you? Is that why he votes? Did he lose a debate to you and think "never again"
Contender
#10
Added:
--> @Sparrow
this is a troll debate. Votes are not moderated.
#9
Added:
I still think you didn't do a good alex jones one
#8
Added:
OH YEAH this isn't your hitler vs stalin one, that's lame.
#7
Added:
--> @Virtuoso, @bsh1
Someone please remove RM's vote. He is talking about Stalin which has nothing to do with this debate. I was impersonating Alex Jones not Stalin.
Instigator
#6
Added:
--> @Alec
I think that's an overly simplistic assessment of how things went down. The guy who funds a business just because their dad left them some money did not earn as much the workers who built those companies on their backs. I'm not for the Bernie Sanders approach of taking all their money. But they get more than they deserve and they can have as much as they want as long as the workers get what they earned instead of the scraps that they tend to get now.
Contender
#5
Added:
--> @Wrick-It-Ralph
The 1% got us through the industrial revolution. They continue to improve our lives drastically. They earned their money.
#4
#6
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
sparrow's was hella funny
#5
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
Countering Ramshutu's poor vote bomb which doesn't explain why RM vote was poor.
Examining RM vote reveals it appears to be just, he explains he liked the impression better which is a probable reason to cast his vote.
Until Ramshutu explains how RM vote is poor, my counter will stand
#4
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
This was such an entertaining debate, I think you both did really good impressions. I vote for pro because he nailed Alex Jones pretty spot on
#3
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
I must tell you, Crazy Bernie, Crazy Bernie doesn't have a CLUE. Alex and me go way back. I have been on his show, Infowars, many, many times and you know they tell me those were the BEST ratings Alex has ever seen! So now Alex is talking about this thing that's called fair capitalism. Lazy fair capitalism. And you know I know everything there is to know about capitalism. Ask Dow Jones! Ask Steve Minoochin! I am the smartest, like, capitalism guy those guys know and they do capitalism all the time, all the time. But, you know Alex is a friend of mine and he's very, very smart and you know people tell me Crazy Bernie worships the DEVIL. Which, ok, you know, how do I know what a guy's doing but that's socialism in a NUTSHELL. socialism is very, very bad maybe even like Hitler bad. Many people do not know that Hitler was a socialist, total socialist, that guy. So on the one side you have FAIR capitalism and the other side you have HITLER and people like CRAZY Bernie and I tell you what I want to do what is FAIR and tell Bernie, now Bernie, you're fired.
#2
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
CVB.
#1
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments 3 points
Better sources 2 points
Better spelling and grammar 1 point
Better conduct 1 point
Reason:
I liked the impersonation better, especially the ending. Stalin, despite swearing and brutally insulting, never raised his voice. This was a tendency that remains to this day a very quintessential quirk of his.