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#922

Anime Debate | ~Music Battle: Intros & OST's~

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The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
3
6
Better sources
4
4
Better legibility
2
2
Better conduct
2
2

After 3 votes and with 3 points ahead, the winner is...

whiteflame
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Standard
Number of rounds
5
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One month
Point system
Multiple criterions
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Open
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14
1724
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27
debates
88.89%
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Description

If you love anime, I'm sure you love some of your favorite Intros and OST's!

Please follow the rules below:
Each opponent will send FIVE anime Intros/OST's each round. (Making it 25 songs overall) Please make sure to send LINKS to the music.
You must mix and match anime intros and the OST's each round. It's fine if one outweighs the other, but make sure they are mixed instead of it only being Intros or only being OST's.
Each round doesn't have to pertain to one specific anime, it can be different anime in one round. Totally up to you, it's optional. Pro (me) and Con (my opponent) can listen to each other's songs, to make it more fun! We might recognize some that we like.

Definition of each:
Intros - Anime intro songs. The songs that play in the beginning of the show.
OST's - Background music/instrumentals that plays during the show.

The voters will choose which music they liked better overall and that's who the winner will be.

Have fun! And the best of luck to my opponent.

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@King_8

Yeah, that's my favorite part as well. Just incredible for its atmosphere setting.

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@whiteflame
@Ramshutu

whiteflame - I really loved that OST my favorite part is at 0:40. It reminds me of someone spying or something or that sh*t is gonna get real.

Ramshutu - Thanks for analysis I appreciate it as well and for voting well. And you didn't have to watch every single video all the way through. Just 1 minute of it is just fine or maybe a little less. If you really loved the track you can listen to it all the way through. But yeah, for efficiency and time you could have done that. Still though, the 1-10 score method was awesome. Fun reading it.

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@whiteflame
@King_8

If took me most of today, listening to them whilst working from home on my noise cancelling earphones. There were some great songs on both sides,

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@Ramshutu

Thank you for the vote and the extensive analysis!

R5: pro

Bleach: great song, it has urgency, it conveys the need for inner strength and adversity, loved the choral aspect to it too! 9
Death parade: CCS, as good as Pokémon: 4
Naruto: CCS, but a little better than Pokémon this time. 5
One peice: CCS, a little bit better again for me. 6
Pain: amazing choral peice. I used to play homeworld a lot, and this brought back some memories of that! Conveys the pain and hurt, and is increasingly well composed: 10

Total:35.
Grand total: 170/250

Con:

Darker than black: this was a b side for an underworld track. Disjointed and harsh - but that was the point. This song was hard in the ears, but that was I’m sure the intent, and as such this ranks higher for me: 7
The world: could only find a live version (link didn’t work), which seemed very CCS, I don’t want to rate it higher than Pokémon as I’m not sure I got the right one: 4
Gundam wing: nice bouncing track, conveys a sense of danger and adventure, catchy in its own way to be honest! 8
Vegeta: this felt somewhat transcendent, moving to a higher level after success. Completion - but more to do. I liked this, but felt the Layering let it down: it felt it should build more: 7
Attack on titan: CCS, just above Pokémon : 5

Total: 31:
Grand total: 176/250

Round 4

Pro.
Naruto: great sense of foreboding! A good build up song,: 8
Hunter x hunter: the usage of the Mexican/Spanish style guitar implicitly makes me go for the vigilante outlaw feeling which it does very well; but the overall quality was just okay, it relies more on the relationship with the style than the music here: 7
My hero academia: about the same level as Pokémon for me: 4
Bleach: looooved this! Great sense of foreboding, that something bad was just around the corner, loved the layers to this song, and the unusual style! 9
Noragami: Cliché cartoon style (CCS), I’d rank this only jut above Pokémon : 5

Total: 33: running total: 135

Con
Full metal alchemist: this started out good and turned into a more CCS, it was mostly catchy, but I can’t rate it higher than the last FMA: 5
Medals box: amazing song! Conveys a me vs the world - and that world is coming for me. Loved the style a lot, loved the stark synth, loved the soft break and loved what appeared to be the bell backing track. Amazing somg: 10
Flow by colours: again, kind of CCS, I m going to score this lower than Pokémon due to use of what appeared to be 1985 Casio quality synth trumpets: 3
Death note: interesting song, a little tubular belly, but interesting: a nice sense of mystery to it! 8
One peice: nice feel to it, as of waiting for a major space battle to start! 8

Total: 34 running total: 145

Round 3:

Pro:
Bleach: not a fan. This is about the same as Pokémon for me: 4
Tokyo ghoul: this started soft, with a sense of sadness, then worked all the way to tragedy. I didn’t like the song a great deal, but could appreciate the emotion it was showing me: 7
Akami Ga Kill: this reminded me of the wheat from Gladiator and a bit of braveheart. It was conveying a combination of mystery, and duty: legit got my hair standing on end. Loved the rock transition - kinda reminds me of hunting of the snark! Best track so far: 10
One peice opening: again, this fits into the generic rocky cartoon theme cliche, it’s around the level of Pokémon for me: 4
Fairytale opening: again, a little less cliche, but still didn’t convey anything to me:5

Total: 30. Running total: 102

Con:

Sorairo days: Again, much like a cliche cartoon theme, better than Pokémon, and the pace does convey some sense of intensity more than some of the others: 6
Tank: Loved this! Every spy film/series has a theme that feels like this, not quite as catchy as the saint; but excellent! 9
Orochimarus theme: nice variations around Tocata and Fuge in D minor, conveys dread, terror and evil very nicely! 9
Sis puella Manila: interesting feel to this, quite a sense of wonder about it, likes the vocals and the soft feeling to this: 8
Genos theme: a lot of anger to this song, with an edge of not caring about consequences. Special place in my head for this style of EDM: 9

Total: 41. Running total: 111

R2:
Death note: Tubular bells feel (that’s good). Liked when the guitar kicked in. Had a mystery / supernatural feel to it: 8
Bleach: very good emotional track, a little bit of sadness and sorrow; but a bit resolute too. 8
One piece: very adventure - but reminded me of one of the settlers themes when you uncovered a new part of the map containing the enemy:8
Narutu: not a big fan of this, it’s between Pokémon and FmA: 5.
Marvellous battle: conveys preparation for a battle really well, illicits feelings of the a team preparing or mcguyver! 9

Total 38: running total: 72

Con:
Asterisk: again, this felt a bit better than the Pokémon theme, but didn’t specifically convey much of a deeper feeling: 5
Inner universe: I liked this song, and there was a frantic energy to it, running out the clock: but I can’t quite put my finger in what I felt: 7
Cruel angels thesis: this one is a carton theme sounding theme song, but less cheesy feeling:6
My hero academia: this reminds me of the Carmaggedon sound track. Love this song, hard and conveys a sense of massive urgency and energy: 9
Mob psycho: thought this was the Seinfeld theme for the first few seconds. Less cheesy, but didn’t scream anything to me
Much like CAT a couple of songs ago - the break about half way through the song almost swayed me to go higher, but wasn’t enough: 6

Total: 33 running total : 71

Voting method.

This is entirely subjective. I’m going to assign points out of 10. Theme tunes are about feeling and conveying the nature of series. My favourite theme tune would probably be Star Trek Voyager, Mission Impossible and the A-team. While this is all anime, I think that vote criteria is still applicable. I don’t watch much anime, so I’m voting solely on how well the music conveys a theme or feeling to me - not on adherence to the anime.

Round1:

Pro:

Pokémon: Kids cartoon style theme. 4
Head in the clouds: seems pretty interesting, conveyed a feeling of oddness - interesting song: 7
Hunter x Hunter: movie score feeling to it, more dramatic: 7
Hunter x Hunter: more upbeat, had an exploration type feel up it, I actually really liked this one: 8!
Naruto: projected a “cool badass” feeling quality here: 8

R1: 34

Full metal alchemist: not a big fan of this song, it is better than the Pokémon theme, but didn’t really do it for me: 5
A song of storm and fire: I had to google this as the original link wasn’t working. Nice little song, still had a hint of a cartoon theme to it, but conveyed a nice sense of urgency: 7
Little busters: very teenage angst, I kinda like this one: 8
Sadness and sorrow: amazing track, fully portrays the emotion here. The transition from orchestra to lone piano was amaZing, I thought this was really good: 10
Made on the abyss. Starts off playfull, moves to the more adventitious: 8

Total: 38

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@Ramshutu

Honestly, that doesn’t sound incredibly long to me, but then I tend to spend a lot more time in total between reading a debate and writing an RFD to explain my decision. That being said, I know I don’t personally expect voters to listen extensively to every song. You and anyone else are welcome to listen to as much or as little as you want. The goal was to provide good listening, not to get extensive analysis of each song or a thorough comparison between what we presented. If voting on this proves to be onerous, then I honestly think it’s not worth doing. I know I didn’t enter into this with the aim of getting voters who had painstakingly listened to every single song and carefully considered their choice.

Oh yeah, your right! Though you meant “doubles it unnecessarily”

Yeah 50, minutes. Still a long ass time

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@Ramshutu

it's 50 mins if they're 1 minute long. You doubled it irrationally.

5 per rounds - 10 rounds - 2 participants.

Even if each are 1 minute long that’s 1hr and 40 minutes.

Next time be aware of the time impact on voters. This is probably why there’s no decent votes so far. I will be getting to this shortly.

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@King_8

Just to bump this (with the faint and somewhat vain hope of getting a vote or two that are actually votes) and introduce you to an amazing OST from Gankutsuou. Forgot about this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l-sWaSCI5A&t=335s

Yeah, I'd rather people just vote on what they actually liked rather than inserting other reasoning into the mix.

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@Pinkfreud08

I understand RM vote because he dislikes me, although he should provide a reason. Pinkfreud should have provided a reason as well instead of countering RM vote. According to the mods who has deleted my votes countless of times, the both of these votes would count as being deleted. Anyways thanks for the votes I guess and I hope actual votes come through

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@whiteflame

Same here, glad I made this. It'll be a hit. Something fun and light to take your mind off of seeing or participating in intense debates xD

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@King_8

I love this idea. Finally have to sift through some incredible anime music - haven’t picked my favorites yet, but that’s part of the fun! Looking forward to seeing yours.