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Topic
#956

Is the earth flat?

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The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
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Better sources
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Better legibility
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Better conduct
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After 4 votes and with 16 points ahead, the winner is...

King_8
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Time for argument
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Description

Serious flat earther conspiracy theorists only. Not a troll debate. Doubt anyone would accept this, but I'm giving it a shot. Looking forward to debunking this theory as I have done several times before. I will be arguing for the earth NOT being flat and my opponent will be arguing in favor of the earth being flat. As I said, serious flat earther debaters please. If you are a troll, do not accept. If you plan to play devil's advocate, then take that risk if you must and come up with some compelling arguments.

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@Ramshutu

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@WaterPhoenix

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>Reported Vote: WaterPhoenix // Mod action: [Removed]
>Points Awarded: 7 points to con

>Reason for Decision: Man, you really gotta feel for these flat-earthers they're a prime example of people believing what they want. Sorry if this isn't a completely fair vote but mate if you took science class you'd know the earth is, according to the laws of physics, round.

>Reason for Mod Action: Reason for Mod Action: This vote is not eligible to vote. In order to vote, an account must: (1) Read the site’s COC AND have completed 2 non-troll/non-FF debate OR have 100 forum posts.

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@David

Sorry about that, I wasn't aware there was a format to voting or requirements before. It won't happen again.

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@Caleb

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>Reported Vote: Caleb // Mod action: [Removed]

>Points Awarded: 4 points to pro for arguments and conduct

>Reason for Decision: BrotherDThomas please stop using the word of God in this way. You are making the rest of us Christians look bad, not all science is fake and and “satanic”. The verse you used to “prove” the earth is flat can easily be debunked with a proper looking into the word CONTEXT MATTERS. You only gave an argument from authority when it was clearly stated in the debate rules that that was not allowed. Don’t accuse people of satanism and condemn people to hell that is not how the Bible commands us to act. Please work on you conduct and only use arguments like that in purely theological debates.

>Reason for Mod Action: This vote is not eligible to vote. In order to vote, an account must: (1) Read the site’s COC AND have completed 2 non-troll/non-FF debate OR have 100 forum posts.

Finally

(1) To award argument points, the voter must (1) survey the main arguments and counterarguments in the debate, (2) weigh those arguments and counterarguments against each other, and (3) explain, based on the weighing process, how they reached their decision.


(2) To award conduct points, the voter must (1) identify specific instances of misconduct, (2) explain how this misconduct was excessive, unfair, or in breach of the debate's rules, and (3) compare each debater's conduct.
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@TheAtheist

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Vote Reported: TheAtheist // Mod Action: Removed

Points awarded: 7 to con

RFD: The Pro’s arguments boiled down to: “You are Satanic, my answers are godly.”

Reason for mod action: In order to be eligible to vote, Accounts must have read the site's COC AND completed at least 2 non-troll debates without any forfeits OR posted 100 forum posts

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@BrotherDThomas

lol, I am debating you and destroying you. Your arguments are horrible

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@Gatorade

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Vote Reported: Gatorade // Mod Action: Removed

Points awarded: 6 points to pro for arguments, sources, and s/g

RFD: Of course the earth is not flat mo'fu'. Con probably just got mad at Pro for his bullshit arguments.

Reason for mod action: In order to be eligible to vote, Accounts must have read the site's COC AND completed at least 2 non-troll debates without any forfeits OR posted 100 forum posts

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Satanic Dr. Franklin,

YOUR COMICAL QUOTE: "I am currently;y debating him with hat topic now-https://www.debateart.com/debates/972"

You are not debating, fool, in said debate the only thing that you are doing is GRASPING FOR THE PROVERBIAL STRAWS, that are not even there anymore! As shown, you give nothing but wishful thinking opinions which ARE NOT absolute facts, that in turn calls Jesus A LIAR! Then, you want to call yourself a Christian? Are you kidding us?

As said before, get your sorry Satanic ass back into the debate and quit HIDING in the comment section of other debates because you are logically realizing that because of your ungodly Satanic positions, you are now seeing your eventful outcome upon Judgment Day!

Are you smelling sulfur yet?!

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@Alec

I am currently;y debating him with hat topic now-https://www.debateart.com/debates/972

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@BrotherDThomas

Where in the bible does it say the earth is flat?

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As shown within the debating venue, any Christian that takes the ungodly position of stating that the earth is spherical, therefore voting against the Brother D, are deceivingly anachronistic as they slap our Jesus in the face relative to "the knowledge of the truth" of the earth being flat as proposed ad infinitum within our bible, and though out the historicity of early Christianity! These wannabe Christians will pay upon Judgment Day for sure, praise Jesus' revenge!

“If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left,” (Hebrews 10:26)

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@Debaticus

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Vote Reported: Debaticus // Mod Action: Not Removed

Reason for mod action: The vote was found to be sufficient per the site voting policy standards.

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Satanic Dr. Franklin,

What are you doing HIDING in the comment section of this debate???! Listen up you minion of Satan, get your sorry Satanic a*s back into YOUR DEBATE that YOU MADE FOR ME at the following link, because I haven’t even started to show you to be the most blatant ignorant wannabe Christian fool regarding our bible and the historicity of Christianity on DebateArt, understood?

"The bible never says the earth is flat"
https://www.debateart.com/debates/972

In said debate above, I have easily bludgeoned your Devil Speak in the eyes of Jesus, therefore, you do not have the time to seek refuge in other debate comment sections like you are doing now at your expense, but to "TRY" and finish said debate, understood? Maybe? Yes?

Your ROUND 2 is running short of time for you, DO NOT RUN AWAY, or I will make sure you will never live it down, get it?

I WILL BE WAITING AT YOUR EXPENSE AGAIN!!!

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@BrotherDThomas

Fucking retard, he was removing a vote

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Virtuoso,

With you mentioning the following: "The earth is flat is a retarded debate," is being totally anachronistic. What is precluded today, and what was godly fact 2000-6000 years ago is black and white. You cannot deny that accent Hebrew tradition was that the earth was flat, therefore this debate is NOT retarded! Besides, you would be calling your traditional Hebrew faith a disparaging term.

Your biography is spot on with mine, praise Jesus!

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@Bazza97125

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Vote Reported: Bazza97125 // Mod Action: Removed

Points awarded: 4 points to pro for sources/sg

RFD: The earth is flat is a retarded debate

Reason for mod action: In order to be eligible to vote, Accounts must have read the site's COC AND completed at least 2 non-troll debates without any forfeits OR posted 100 forum posts

To award sources points, the voter must (1) explain how the debaters' sources impacted the debate, (2) directly assess the strength/utility of at least one source in particular cited in the debate, and (3) explain how and why one debater's use of sources overall was superior to the other's.


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@Bazza97125

Its funny that you really somehow think our arguments are tied lmfao it's clear as day who the winner of the debate is. By the way, this debate and in the BLM debate, your votes might get deleted by mods, because your reasoning is insufficient and does not follow up with the code of conduct. Just giving you a heads up so you won't be surprised.

"The earth is flat is a retarded debate" Well there are people who think the earth is flat so it has became a debatable topic. My R1 alone wins this whole debate and it easily debunks the flat earth theory yet you put me and my opponent's arguments as "tied" lol and btw, my opponent never even rebutted any of my claims effectively. He trollishly used religion.

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@BrotherDThomas

notice u completely ingored my rebut because you got demolished lmaooo

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@BrotherDThomas

Sorry I have been busy, I will type something up after my school day is finished

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Dr. Franklin,

Why are you wasting your time in this thread? You have a debate that YOU STARTED FOR ME at the following link:
https://www.debateart.com/debates/972

You stated that I was an idiot at the onset OF THE DEBATE THAT YOU STARTED shown above, but at this time, you are the IDIOT for spending time other than the debate above where I am easily making you the fool and a minion of Satan! Are you RUNNING AWAY again from a debate, even your own debate?

NO, I am not 21stCenturyIconoclast, although I have debated him a few times around the internet Religion forums, and I have to admit, I have used a few of his statements, words, and "periods" to extend the dialog past images from the top to bottom of a page which is a great idea. I also use some of his statements because they are appropriate to Christians like you that DO NOT follow ALL of the Bible and expect to be a Christian. Here, let me give you an example, "Dr. Franklin, you are a pseudo-christian, and I am a TRUE Christian for following ALL of our Jesus' inspired words, GET IT?"

You challenged me to YOUR DEBATE, https://www.debateart.com/debates/972, therefore, I accepted and suggest you get back into round 2 where at this time you are RUNNING AWAY from your own debate!!!

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Now, quit embarrassing yourself in front of the members of DebateArt, and get into the debate that you started shown above, because my first round in this debate of yours in only the first round of your total embarrassment here on DebateArt!!!

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@Twilightzi

Yeah and he said psuedo-Christian. Hes def Iconolcast

Sorry if I went against the rules

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@David
@Twilightzi

That's because that's who he is. Notice the period he types before any of the words to format his comments, coupled with the exact same structure and capitalization/exaggeration for emphasis. When you consider all these things together it is virtually impossible that it isn't him, or at least someone seriously committed to impersonating him.

All of this said, I'm not sure whether exposing peoples non-personal other site identities is against the rules for doxxing.

You know who I get reminded everytime BrotherDThomas say "YOU IGNORANT QOUTE", " YOU REVEALING QOUTE "OR something QOUTE? I get reminded of 21stcenturyconoclast who does the same thing in debate.org.. I am wondering if this guy and 21stcenturyconoclast are the same or are at least linked somehow .... No offence BrotherDThomas.. My apologies if you take any offence.

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@Our_Boat_is_Right

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Vote Reported: // Mod Action: Removed

Points awarded: 3 points to pro for arguments

RFD: Troll debate

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@JasonGrace

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Vote Reported: JasonGrace // Mod Action: Removed

Points awarded: 4 points to con for arguments and conduct

RFD: Con had strong convincing arguments like how "if the earth was flat, it would effect gravity, time, the seasons and life on earth in many ways" whereas Pro responded with a lot of religious statements. Both Con and Pro provided reliable sources and both of them had good spelling and grammar. Pro often talked ill-mannered about Con's arguments by calling Con's arguments/questions; "DECEIVING QUOTE", "SATANIC QUESTIONS" and "UNGODLY SATANIC QUOTE". As a result, Con had better conduct.

Reason for mod action: In order to be eligible to vote, Accounts must have read the site's COC AND completed at least 2 non-troll debates without any forfeits OR posted 100 forum posts. They will regain the right to vote once they have done these things. The voter should read their PM for more info.

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@Our_Boat_is_Right

I can confirm that from any quote xD, he thought I was talking about you lolol

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@BrotherDThomas

LOL I was talking about you dude

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@Speedrace

" it is called CONTRADITION, get it? Shhhhh, our bible is full of them, mums the word, shhhhhh...."

Yeah I can confrim this dude to be a troll by this quote

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@BrotherDThomas

You ignored the other things I said.

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Speedrace,

YOUR REVEALING QUOTE: "It’s people like this that scare people from Christianity *sigh*"

You are correct in your thinking, but "Our_Boat_is_Right" isn't going to be changing anytime soon. :(

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Our_Boat_is_Right,

YOUR REVEALING QUOTE: "You choose these verses but ignore all of the Bble's other verses that strictly prohibit aborion."

Regarding your quote, do the simple math, then it is called CONTRADITION, get it? Shhhhh, our bible is full of them, mums the word, shhhhhh....

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@King_8

It’s people like this that scare people from Christianity *sigh*

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@Our_Boat_is_Right

Yeah lol

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@Speedrace

Lol yeah im 99% sure I'm not in an alternate universe where my alt account is broDThomas...lol

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@BrotherDThomas

It was God's just punishment for their wrongdoings. Generally, God is against abortion. God's specific intervention caused the termination of that baby, what planned parenthood is doing is not God's plan. It is only by God's will people will terminate their babies because of wrongdoings. Not ours. You choose these verses but ignore all of the Bble's other verses that strictly prohibit aborion.

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@King_8

Ouch, Our_Boat isn't that crazy xD

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@BrotherDThomas

Ok, yeah im sure ill get destroyed

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Dr. Franklin,

Why of course I will accept your Satanic debate towards Jesus the Christ! Unfortunately for you, I will easily show you committing the UNPARDONABLE SIN, where upon your demise, you will be swimming in the burning lakes of Hell, Praise Jesus!

When the debate finishes, you will start smelling sulfur because of your blaspheme against our Savior, Jesus the Christ!

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King_8,

YOUR UNFORTUNATE QUOTE: "First off I'm not a kid, secondly I don't have time for your BS so stfu. Like I said I don't have to put anything on my bio to please you. I know what I am. Me not putting anything by religion is not a sin."

First thing, do not be a Troll by you using child-like epithets because Trolls are looked down upon in this forum. Secondly, putting your Christian faith into your bio should NOT be to please me, but to please Jesus the Christ! When you don't, it's like you are embarrassed about Jesus' true modus operandi as shown below, or Christianity altogether.

Remember, you are to follow Jesus' word to the fullest extent, as shown in the passage below, this includes your biography page.

"Praise the Lord! Praise God in his sanctuary; praise him in his mighty heavens! Praise him for his mighty deeds; praise him according to his excellent greatness! Praise him with trumpet sound; praise him with lute and harp! Praise him with tambourine and dance; praise him with strings and pipe! Praise him with sounding cymbals; praise him with loud clashing cymbals! ..." (Psalm 150:1-6)

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Our_Boat_is_Right,

YOUR QUOTE ACCEPTING THAT JESUS IS A MURDERER OF INNOCENT FETUS,’ PRAISE!: “So in this series of scripture, I read the Bible saying that violently ripping the unborn from the womb is a just and worthy retribution if their parents were considered to have rebelled against God.”

Our_Boat_is_Right, finally, you just may be a TRUE Christian like myself for admitting that our beloved Jesus, as God incarnate in the book of Hosea, is in fact, a brutal murderer of the innocent unborn! (Hosea 9: 11-16) Thank you for your honesty, praise!

In the beginning it was hard for me to accept that our Jesus was a brutal murderer, especially of innocent zygotes, fetus,’ and babies, but I finally gave in to his true modus operandi within the scriptures, because who am I to usurp the truth about our Jesus? We just have to move on with this unfortunate knowledge of our Savior the best way we can, agreed?

Don’t forget in your passages next time, that our Jesus actually went through and murdered the innocent unborn within the Ephraim woman’s womb, and if the women brought forth a child, Jesus slayed that child as well in Hosea 9:16.

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AS EXPLICITLY SHOWN, “OUR_BOAT_IS_RIGHT” AND “MYSELF” ARE ON RECORD ADMITTING THAT
OUR JESUS IS A BRUTAL MURDERER OF THE INNOCENT UNBORN!

Therefore, subjectively, who are we to be against abortion when our Jesus set an example and performed this brutal act in the book of Hosea. At least in the USA, the Family Planning Clinics won’t rip out the unborn, or actually slay them after they are born, like Jesus did in the book of Hosea, whew!

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@BrotherDThomas

First off I'm not a kid, secondly I don't have time for your BS so stfu. Like I said I don't have to put anything on my bio to please you. I know what I am. Me not putting anything by religion is not a sin.

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@BrotherDThomas

Are you going to accept my debate?

For God's sake.. This is a debate site not a arguing site... Keep your cool every one.... Calling Each other trolls does make you a genius? No. Smart? No... You are turning into one.. First you will reply nicely then the reply gets ruder by every reply... I know that I am not someone to speak cx I am not perfect.. Neither are you.... Just becx he or she doesn't agree with you doesn't mean to be rude.. Be nice instead. Be reasonable. You are adults not teenagers like me or kids! So treat others the way you wanted to be treated... You wouldn't like it if you were called a troll, would you? So be kind, reasonable and nice.

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@BrotherDThomas

"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb."- Psalm 139

This is just one verse among many that concludes according to God, abortion is wrong.

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@BrotherDThomas

In the book of Hosea, we have the prophet relaying a message from God, saying what will happen to the Israelites who had rebelled as punishment for their transgressions. In Hosea 9:14, we are told God will cause the deaths of the unborn, as he will “give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts.” In Hosea 13:16 it is proclaimed:

“Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.”

In Isaiah 7:20 and 10:5, it is stated that the Assyrians will be used by God as the means of implementing these punishments. In 2 Kings it describes how they fulfilled this role:

8:12 And Hazael (future king of Syria) said, Why weepeth my lord? And he (Elisha) answered, Because I know the evil that thou wilt do unto the children of Israel: their strong holds wilt thou set on fire, and their young men wilt thou slay with the sword, and wilt dash their children, and rip up their women with child.
15:16 (Then Menahem smote Tiphsah, and all that were therein, and the coasts thereof from Tirzah: because they opened not to him, therefore he smote it; and all the women therein that were with child he ripped up.
So in this series of scripture, I read the Bible saying that violently ripping the unborn from the womb is a just and worthy retribution if their parents were considered to have rebelled against God.

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Our_Boat_is_Right,

When I stated that you turned into a TROLL by its true definition, and you did not respond in kind, the only answer then is that you agreed that you have turned into a troll! Thank you for your honesty for a change. Therefore, you are against trolls as stated, but then you turned into one, this is quite an irony, isn't it?

When talking about abortion LIKE YOU DID, and with abortion being in the news of late, then why did you bring it forth knowing that it is at the head of all news casts? Therefore, you were the impetus of politically bringing abortion to the forefront! Priceless hypocrisy on your part.

SIDEBAR: You still remain eerily silent to our Yahweh/Jesus enacting abortions upon the women of Ephraim in our Jesus' book of Hosea, and slaying them if they do survive by being born outside of the womb. Are you too embarrassed, as usual, to respond to this biblical axiom? Huh?

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@BrotherDThomas

I sent you a challenge

Dr. Franklin,

YOUR COMMITMENT QUOTE: "you know what, fuck it, it will be a easy win anyway"

Barring the fact that you are continually showing us that you are the true definition of an internet TROLL, I am glad that your quote states that you want to debate your biblical ignorance, praise Jesus. Do you want me to set up the debate, or do you want to do it? I am trying to help you in any way that I can, because it is going to be a bloodbath at your expense! Be forewarned, I will not be holding back in showing your outright blatant ignorance of our Christianity, do you understand? Yes?

Dr. Franklin, no more RUNAWAY excuses, no more pretending that you are a Christian, no more hiding behind a faith where you are no more a Christian than an Atheist is, understood? Now, put up, or shut up in the name of Satan!

DebateArt members are now watching your decision, will you RUN AWAY, or stand ground to be made the hypocritical wannabe Christian that you are?

WAITING!

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