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Topic
#963

The U.S was founded as a White Nation

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Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Winner
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3

After 3 votes and with 3 points ahead, the winner is...

Barney
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1
Time for argument
One day
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30,000
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One week
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Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
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1810
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Description

Discussion will range from the corruption of what our founding fathers intended, and how the United States has strayed away from it's original ideals.

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@Bazza97125

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Vote Reported: Bazza97125 // Mod Action: Removed

Points awarded: 1 point to pro

RFD: Intense hip-hop music]
[Pounding on door]
Hold on a minute.
MAN IN HALL: What the fuck?
JIMMY: Hold on a fuckin' minute!
[Hip-hop music stops suddenly]
[Hip-hop beat from other room]
[Vomiting]
[Pounding on door]
MAN IN HALL: Yo, what the fuck?
Quit playing with your fucking self!
Open the door!
Fuck, man.
Who the fuck is you, nigga?
Where are you going?
-Backstage. I'm in the battle.
-You can't.
-I got a stamp on my hand
No. I'm at New Detro

Reason for mod action: In order to be eligible to vote, Accounts must have read the site's COC AND completed at least 2 non-troll debates without any forfeits OR posted 100 forum posts

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The voter should also review this: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/346?page=1&post_number=4

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@Our_Boat_is_Right

That extra post was just providing a little bit information to clarify what was good and bad about the vote - it isn’t a second attempt to moderate the vote.

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@Our_Boat_is_Right

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>Reported Vote: Our_boat_is_right // Mod action: Not Removed
>Points Awarded: win to con.

>Reason for Decision: Con proves that the original laws, despite the perception that some people or things were racist, was not founded as a white nation. He proves many things to be irrelevant, such as things like after the foundation of the country in later years, and things that had no affect on the founding documents and laws.

>Reason for Mod Action: This vote is border line, and as such is sufficient.

What is sufficient: the voter appears to reference all the main arguments made by both sides, and appears to explain why one side won with regards to the arguments being made.

What is insufficient: the voter appears to be overly brief, and doesn’t appear to explicitly reference pros arguments.

What makes this border line: reading the debate, it seems relatively clear what the voter is referring to, and it appears to cover the broad aspects of the debate - even though its brief. To make the vote sufficient I think the voter would likely not need to modify reasoning significantly (if at all), but only to add semantics such as “pro said..” and “this refuted pros argument that...” for that reason the vote is allowed.

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@Our_Boat_is_Right

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Vote Reported: Our_Boat_is_Right // Mod Action: Not Removed

Reason for mod action: The vote was borderline. By default, borderline votes are ruled to be sufficient.


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@K_Michael

He is gorgeous! ... Glad someone caught that snippet.

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@Barney

Tom Hiddleston XD XD

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@Highever

Nice catch. If you haven't already, I strongly advise reading the Bonus History Lesson (it's great fuel for mocking people later).

'Principles of Equality' ------ race based slavery... seems legit.

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@Barney

Yeah

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@Dr.Franklin

Voting can be tricky. I honestly haven't gotten used to the requirements here, I am used to a much lower standard of voter BoP (make it clear you read the debate, and are not voting just as a game of who/what you like). I'd call voting here a trinity system, which isn't bad, it just isn't what I'm used to.

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@Barney

Yeah, I would vote but it my privilege got took away, this is a easy win.

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@Dr.Franklin

Thanks.

I rarely do the professional sourcing, but due to my history with neo-nazis I like to put their ideals down with prejudice.

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@Barney

Good R1

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@Speedrace

I suppose.

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@Dr.Franklin

Now it is, but that wasn't really the case back then

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@TheRedeemer

It's one thing to call out how the US has strayed away from principal values, but to call it a "white nation" is very wrong. America is a nation for all races and religions