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#972

The Bible never says the Earth is flat

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The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

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After 3 votes and with 6 points ahead, the winner is...

Dr.Franklin
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BrotherDThomas thinks the earth is flat because Jesus said so, which is WRONG

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@nonjudgmental

I'm willing to friend almost anybody on DART. It's why I have so many. Although I understand Brother D's logic a bit.

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@nonjudgmental

YOU DARE ME AND BROTHERD's FRIENDSHIP???

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@Alec
@Dr.Franklin
@BrotherDThomas

Look at this nonsense. You call this guy a christian and are friends with him? With friends like this, who needs enemies? Yall just trolls and supporting trolls.

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@Alec

No,slaughtering in the debating

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@Dr.Franklin

He made death threats? That can get him in trouble.

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@Alec

But he is HILARIOUS

"So I'm going to slaughter you now since you didn't listen to me, Maybe you'll listen to someone else. If you don't take in these videos, That's not my problem. Btw, These professionals know one helluva lot more than you."

"Seasoned beating with my egg-pressed rectal itch and thermometer reading 136 degrees fahrenheit on the ballroom floor."

"chitty chitty bong bong your out"

https://www.debate.org/debates/Is-atheism-a-religion/7/
https://www.debate.org/debates/The-god-of-the-bible-does-not-exist/5/

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@Dr.Franklin

I can see where backwarsden comes from, but his conduct is awful.

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@BrotherDThomas

Hey..look at this guy--https://www.debate.org/backwardseden/

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@Alec

backwardseden is weird,so it makes sense, he wont switch

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@Dr.Franklin

How would you know that? Maybe WOA vs BDT (Wisdom of Ags vs Brother D Thomas).

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@Alec

Done!

https://www.debate.org/debates/Things-that-Donald-toilet-dust-Trump-the-worst-president-of-all-time-and-god-have-in-common/1/

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@Alec

Backwardseden unfortunately wont switch

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@Alec

Oh yeah, that would be AWESOME, I would pay for that

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@Dr.Franklin

Lets invite backwarsden from DDO so he debates Brother D Thomas. You know Mosc?

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@BrotherDThomas

judge what is right not wrong were your verse BrotherDtard,

"DR. FRANKLIN, ITS TIME FOR YOU TO GO INTO HIDING AND WIPE THE EGG FROM YOUR FACE ONCE AGAIN! JESUS IS NOT SMILING IN YOUR BEHALF!"

Its the new backwardseden, and I love it

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@Club

Yup,he might be Iconoclast

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@Dr.Franklin
@BrotherDThomas

Dr.Franklin
I think we both know he's a troll, and his arguments make no sense.
BrotherDThomas
Chill with the Christ stuff, according to your own religion "Don't use his name in vain" or something. But chill...

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@BrotherDThomas

HOW BOIIIII,EXPLAIN THYSELVES

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@Dr.Franklin

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Shhhhhhhhhhhh ...... go lick your wounds somewhere else, you are DONE!

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@BrotherDThomas

Why didn't you respond to my love your enemies

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@Dr.Franklin

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Dr. Franklin,

YOUR REVEALING AND EMBARRASSING QUOTE: "To be honest, I dont care to read your long rants"

Conversely, to be honest, you can't read them and act upon them and remain intelligent looking in the aftermath. The said posts were regarding Christianity and the ramifications that TRUE Christians have to accept. Therefore, you were easily beaten in the comments section of this debate, therefore, run along and try to accept your "RUNAWAY" modus operandi in front of the members of DebateArt.

How utterly embarrassing for you once again.

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@BrotherDThomas

To be honest, I dont care to read your long rants

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@Dr.Franklin

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This is so sad for Dr. Franklin, once again he RUNS AWAY from his ignorance and stupidity regarding Christianity relating to my posts #51, #49, #47, and #45, with yet another non sequitur #54 post of his as he tries in vain to grasp for the straws that are not even there anymore.

The "doc" have been easily defeated as explicitly shown in this comments section, and now has to resort to non sequiturs in his feeble attempt to regain a modicum of respect here on DebateArt. It is truly sad to watch.

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@BrotherDThomas

EVIL SATANIC BROTHERDTHOMAS IS UNCHRISTIANLIKE

INSULTING IS AGAINST JESUS'S LAW

Matthew 5

[43] Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
[44] But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
[45] That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
[46] For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
[47] And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?

JESUS SAYS TO LOVE YOUR ENEMIES BUT BROTHERDTMOMAS DOESN't SATANIC

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@Dr.Franklin

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Dr. Franklin,

YOUR NON SEQUITUR QUOTE: " your welcome"

Barring the FACT once again of your 1st grade reading comprehension with the word "your" instead of using "you're," you have shown DebateArt that you have thrown in the towel of DEFEAT because you cannot answer my posts of #51, #49, #47, and #45 !!!!

Good boy, even though it is embarrassing for you to GIVE UP on said posts of mine above, at least now you will try and accept in how dumbfounded you truly are regarding our Christian faith! Jesus is embarrassed for you as He shakes his head in disgust. :(

Thank you Dr. Franklin for at least "trying" to show us your knowledge upon our faith, where in discussion as shown, YOU HAVE NONE! LOL!

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@BrotherDThomas

your welcome

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@Dr.Franklin

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Dr. Franklin,

YOUR REVEALING #46 BIBLE QUOTE ON JUDGING: “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you….”

First off, as your initial bible quote so states, I CAN JUDGE YOU, AND YOU CAN JUDGE ME BACK! Do you understand this simple biblical conclusion, or do I have to extend my bible class with you again? Huh?

YOUR TOTALLY EMBARRASSING QUOTE: “judging good deads is good,not judging in general”

SECOND TIME today, you meant “Deeds” and NOT “Deads,” please try and understand the english language when on DebateArt!

Then you dig your hole deeper by stating; “Judging in general isn’t good?” In your vain attempt to dig yourself out of the hole you dug again, you can actually state such a dumbfounded statement? Are you kidding us, or are you really this inept?

!!!! NEWS ALERT. !!!!

Dr. Franklin purports that ALL JUDGING IN GENERAL is not good anymore, therefore he proffers that ALL, and I repeat, ALL court proceedings in the USA should stop Judging in a jury setting post haste! Equally ignorant and dumbfounded friends of Dr. Franklin are to go out and shout this from the mountain tops of what Dr. Franklin has proposed, NO JUDGING IN GENERAL BECAUSE IT IS NOT GOOD!

Dr. Franklin, can you give me a break from you continually grasping for straws regarding our faith, and YOUR COMPLETE IGNORANCE UPON SIMPLE PROPOSITIONS, either from the bible, or in real life? Okay? Thank you.

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@BrotherDThomas

FINALLY,YOU USED THE RECEIVER BAR. judging good deads is good,not judging in general

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@Dr.Franklin

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Dr. Franklin,

YOUR LAUGHABLE QUOTE: "Those verses talk about praising good deads."

First off, I am sure you meant "deeds" instead of "deads." Therefore, it matters not what the topic of judging is that Jesus stated, because it deduces to JUDGING!!! GET IT? HUH? MAYBE? YES? Therefore you weak refutation to Judging falls flat on its face! Now, like I said before, wipe the egg from your face AGAIN and try to regroup in front of the members of DebateArt, that is, if you can.

You continue to parade around DebateArt as if you actually know our Christian bible, when YOU DO NOT! 2+2=4!

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@BrotherDThomas

Those verses talk about praising good deads. AND PLEASE USE THE RECEIVER BAR.

Dr. Franklin,

I do not understand in why you continue to show DebateArt your complete biblical ignorance!!!!!

Relative to your "judging" scenario where you state that we cannot judge, Jesus says that we can judge, you blatant fool! YOU CONTINUE TO SHOW EVERYONE THAT YOU DO NOT READ OUR CHRISTIAN BIBLE WHICH EQUALS BLASPHEME!

Jesus has told mankind to judge righteous judgment as he told a man "Thou hast rightly judged" (Luke 7:43), and the most important judging verse is when Jesus told others; "Why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?" (Luke 12:57). Remember the Lord Jesus Christ commanded, "Judge righteous judgment" (John 7:24).

THINK; tell the people on court juries throughout the land not to judge others, GET IT?! Jesus' inspired words say WE CAN JUDGE, therefore, do you want to call Jesus a LIAR in this respect? NO? I didn’t think so!

DR. FRANKLIN, ITS TIME FOR YOU TO GO INTO HIDING AND WIPE THE EGG FROM YOUR FACE ONCE AGAIN! JESUS IS NOT SMILING IN YOUR BEHALF!

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@BrotherDThomas

Well you cant call people names, thats against Jesus

1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

See Matthew 7 says not to judge, so stop it if I disagree with you

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Dr. Franklin,

Doc, as you are aware, I really don't care if points are taken off because of calling you what you are, and that is an inept fake Christian, because Jesus acted in the same manner of calling a spade a spade, even if He were at a Black Lives Matter rally today!

Jesus provided me with the way TRUE Christians like myself are to handle fake Christians like you, as explicitly shown in a few of the many passages attributed to Him upon this topic, and as shown below, praise!

“When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. SO HE MADE A WHIP OUT OF CORDS, AND DROVE ALL FROM THE TEMPLE COURTS both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. To those who sold doves he said, “GET THESE OUT OF HERE! STOP TURNING MY FATHERS HOUSE INTO A MARKET!” (John 2:13-16)

“I tell you that everyone who has will be given more; but the one who does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. And these enemies of mine who were unwilling for me to rule over them, BRING THEM HERE AND SLAY THEM THEM IN FRONT OF ME. After Jesus had said this, He went on ahead, going up to Jerusalem.….” ( Luke 19:26-28)

As we happily have to agree, our Jesus is a man's man for sure and doesn't take any crap from no one! PRAISE!

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@BrotherDThomas

"CONGRATULATIONS DR. FRANKLIN !!!!"

THANK YOU BROTHERDTHOMAS HOW NICE

Your conduct is HOURNEDOUS

"DR. FRANKLIN, LET US BEGIN YOUR DEVIL SPEAK BLOODBATH:"

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Dr. Franklin,

CONGRATULATIONS DR. FRANKLIN !!!!

First off, you don’t want to display the conduct of what your voters are allegedly against, and erroneously gave you points for not doing, but you did anyway, like your disparaging statements below, okay? HELLO?! LOL!

“This guy is an idiot”

“Hah, look who won Dumbass”

NOT GOD OR JESUS.STRIKE 3 YOUR OUT!!

5 STRIKES AND YOUR MEGA OUT!!!!!

Dr.Franklin
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Satanic BrotherDThomas,
what the fuck is the matter with you. She was just outlying what she will do for the debate.
https://www.debateart.com/debates/913

Dr.Franklin
Added: 21 hours ago
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lol, I am debating you and destroying you. Your arguments are horrible
https://www.debateart.com/debates/956

Dr.Franklin
Added: 3 days ago
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Fucking retard, he was removing a vote
https://www.debateart.com/debates/956

Dr.Franklin
Added: 1 day ago
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Satanic BrotherDThomas,
what the fuck is the matter with you. She was just outlying what she will do for the debate.
https://www.debateart.com/debates/913

Now that it has been proven by your voters, ALL THREE OF THEM, that hearsay, wishful thinking and opinions of yourself and others are fair game in a debate, Jesus and I will STILL USE ACTUAL PROVABLE FACTS!

What is still comical, is the FACT that you and others DO NOT take into account the historicity of the biblical era where the earth was considered FLAT as a pancake, but instead, deceivingly take their ignorant anachronistic approach to this topic. Kids nothing but kids.

Subjectively, and as one of many faux pas’ of yours, your total EMBARRASSMENT by using the Hebrew word for FLAT circle of “cugh" was priceless that was NEVER USED within the bible, which should have removed 21 POINTS from your total! Whereas, I had to correct you AGAIN to provide the true word “chuwg” for FLAT circle in the Strong’s Concordance!

BrOtHErDThOMas
You should make a new debate that says
"The Earth Is Round says Atheists"
Like religion has to do with a round Earth

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@BrotherDThomas

Hah, look who won Dumbass

thx for the vote

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@debater445

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>Reported Vote: Debater445 // Mod action: Removed
>Points Awarded: 4 points to pro for arguments and conduct. 2 points to con for sources

>Reason for Decision: Pro's arguments were better. Con did read the bible more thoroughly, and found more evidence, but Pro debunked it. Both had equal spelling and grammar. Con was far too rude and insulting, while Pro was as polite as possible, so of course he gets a point for best conduct.

>Reason for Mod Action: The voter is not eligable to vote. A voter must have 2 completed non troll / non forfeit debates, or 100 forum comments and have read the code of conduct in order to vote.

That being said. The vote would also have been removed were this not the case as arguments, conduct S&G are insufficiently explained.

To award arguments, the voter must (1) survey the main arguments and counterarguments in the debate, (2) weigh those arguments and counterarguments against each other, and (3) explain, based on the weighing process, how they reached their decision.

To award sources points, the voter must (1) explain how the debaters' sources impacted the debate, (2) directly assess the strength/utility of at least one source in particular cited in the debate, and (3) explain how and why one debater's use of sources overall was superior to the other's.

To award conduct points, the voter must (1) identify specific instances of misconduct, (2) explain how this misconduct was excessive, unfair, or in breach of the debate's rules, and (3) compare each debater's conduct.

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I can't stand fake people

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@Club

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>Reported Vote: Club // Mod action: Removed
>Points Awarded: 3 points to pro for sources and conduct.

>Reason for Decision: Lol
So, Dr.Franklin had better sources because he used multiple unlike Mr, BRoThERd Thomas
BrotherDThomas also stated that DF was "Satanic" in some way.

>Reason for Mod Action: The does not sufficiently explaining any of the key points awarded.

To award sources points, the voter must (1) explain how the debaters' sources impacted the debate, (2) directly assess the strength/utility of at least one source in particular cited in the debate, and (3) explain how and why one debater's use of sources overall was superior to the other's.

To award conduct points, the voter must (1) identify specific instances of misconduct, (2) explain how this misconduct was excessive, unfair, or in breach of the debate's rules, and (3) compare each debater's conduct.

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@BrotherDThomas

No im asking people to vote

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Dr. Franklin,

LOOK AT YOU!!! You are crying like a little baby and pleading with others in a prejudiced manner, “Please vote for me,” CAN SOMEONE VOTE PLEASE!” How utterly embarrassing for you in front of the members of DebateArt! The members that you are pleading with seemingly have your back in voting for you in a totally biased way, which therefore makes them as ignorant as you are because they don’t care as well about BIBLE FACTS, and the HISTORICITY of our Christianity. Laughable!

You based your entire debate upon Wishful Thinking, Opinions, not using Strong’s Concordance with your bible passages, especially where you used the wrong word for “circle,” that comically fell flat upon its face. Then if the above disconcertments weren’t embarrassing enough for you, your deceiving anachronistic ways prevented you from actually knowing the TRUE historicity of our faith in the Bronze, Iron, and MIddle Ages, that believed in a FLAT EARTH, along with a PTOLEMAIC GEOCENTRIC PLANETARY SYSTEM UP UNTIL 1600AD, and as explicitly shown within the bible, makes you the continued fool, period!

Whether you like it or not, or accept it, the following link is what our biblical Hebrews believed regarding earth in the aforementioned periods of time.
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-ded83b54de63777d8481fd176670a9e9

Dr. Franklin, you are guilty of so many inspired passages by Jesus, that I can hardly keep count of them! Nonetheless, here are a few of the standouts that you will have to answer upon your Judgment Day:

“Every word of God proves true; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him. Do not add to his words, lest he rebuke you and you be found a liar.” (Proverbs 30: 5-6)

“EVERY word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him.“ (Proverbs 30:5)

A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion.” (Proverbs 18:2)

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@David

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>Reported Vote: Virtuoso// Mod action: Not Removed
>Points Awarded: 1 points to pro for conduct.

>Reason for Decision: See vote.

>Reason for Mod Action: The vote was found to be sufficient as per thesite policy.
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@Dr.Franklin

It is on my Radar, don’t worry.

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@Dr.Franklin

I gotchu

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@Ramshutu
@Pinkfreud08
@Speedrace

vote plz

CAN SOMEONE VOTE!!!PLEASE

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Virtuoso,

YOUR QUOTE: "All of Con's argument was insulting the Pro and saying how he's "lying about Jesus".

You are correct! The TRUTH hurts sometimes, and in the case of the Satanic Dr. Franklin, I have shown him to call Jesus a LIAR throughout the debate with his ever so weak arguments of "well, it could mean this or that" instead of actual peered reviewed FACTS and biblical precepts through Strongs Concordance.

Dr. Franklin anachronistically puts todays Satanic science back into the Bible where it does NOT belong! Therefore he will pay upon Judgment Day; "I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book" (Revelation 22:18-19)

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Virtuoso,

YOUR QUOTE: "Con's argument is self-contradictory, stating both that the earth is a circle and that it has four corners, which is geometrically impossible. Arguments to Pro"

I am the messenger of the Judeo-Christian bible in what it proposes, and in this case as YOU being a member of Judaism, "YOUR" god, Yahweh, and "MY" God Jesus, stated that our earth has 4 corners and is FLAT, and at the same time, it is a FLAT circle, as I have shown correctly from the Strongs Concordance, whereas Mr. Satan, Dr. Franklin, used erroneous words of a circle to try and save face again.

Therefore, our Gods are CONTRADICTORY, not me when I bring forth the historicity of our faiths.

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the Bible states that the earth has 4 corners, AND, it states that it is a FLAT earth. "YOUR" god, Yahweh, and "MY" God