Billionares ^ +12% Others v -11%

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--> @Alec
Is this math?

....^^^.....Billionares ^+12%  and rising....^^^

-----<----<----middle class vanishing----<----<

....vvvv......Others v-11% and receding further...vvvv

How many years into the future is this scenario sustainable? Oh, yeah, Trumpanzees do think about long term sustainability.

Trumpanzees think only in short term gains of wealth for self, immediate familly and maybe others of same skin color and religion.

Wholistic concerns for an ecological environment that sustains humans for longest time periods forward is beyond comprehensive considerations of Trumpanzees.

Trumpanzees only concerned about one set of values, corporate profits are rising!
 
Free market is savior for all of humanity.

Brains{ brawn } over mind{ intellect } is the butt-forward way into the future. .....Not........

Jacob Bekenstiens black hole mathematics --Bekenstiens Bound-- led him to make the following comments, as reported in Scientific American. .."we appear to be 2D creatures having an illusion of 3D.....

Trumpanzee brain//brawn conclusion is that, we live on a planet of infinite{ oo } resources that will create infinite{ oo } wealth far above any humans standard-of-living-need, for the top 1% of  profit-only-oriented, brainy//brawny, butt forwward humans.

How many years into the future is this scenario sustainable? Especially if it continues to increase the divide  between rich <------------------> poor.

Oh, yeah, Trumpanzees do not think about long term sustainability.

....^^^.....Billionares ^+12%  and rising....^^^
....vvvv......Others v-11% and receding further...vvvv

MIght is right ergo rich is right?

A rich person//family is smarter and has more moral integrity than others?







--> @Mharman
Income inequality is touted as evil by the left, but all it is is people who work the hardest rising to the top.
Of the current Forbes 400, there were 34 with a top score of 10 [truly poor]; 64 with a score of 9 [working class]; 130 with a score of 8 [Harvard educated]; 37 with a score of 7 [inherited the family business]; and only 10 with a 6 [hands off investor]. On the inherited side, there were 28 with a score of 1 [born rich, done nothing]; 24 with a 2 score [born rich, manages business]; 19 with a 3 [born rich, has made small increases]; 20 with a 4 [born rich, has increased wealth meaningfully; and 34 with a five [inherited small empire]. [LINK]

Out of a sample of 400, 98 were from working class or poor backgrounds 24.5% which leaves us 302 (75.5%) who were born rich (not working class) with a distinct and quantifiable advantage.

Approximately 24.5% of people who work the hardest (or get lucky) have a chance of rising to the top.
--> @3RU7AL
Approximately 24.5% of people who work the hardest (or get lucky) have a chance of rising to the top.
And that is of the 400 who made it there.

For every 400 that make it to Forbes top, there exist, hundreds-of-millions{?}  that do not?

And which morals do we have forego, or tweak, to make it to the Forbes top?

TIger Woods ex-wife stated that ..'money does not bring you happiness, it just makes things easier'. Ex, in her case to carry-on divorce procedings via traveling between her home in Scandanvia and Tiger in US.

Somewhere around here or elsewhere I saw some amount that is all that is really needed to live a nice 1st world country standard -of-living but dont recall how much that was. The point being more money is not needed.


--> @mustardness
Somewhere around here or elsewhere I saw some amount that is all that is really needed to live a nice 1st world country standard -of-living but dont recall how much that was. The point being more money is not needed.
I think it's about $100,000.00 per year in the U.S.A.
--> @3RU7AL
I think it's about $100,000.00 per year in the U.S.A.
OMG, that seems high to me.  Ive gotten by on much less all of my life.

If we could do get single payer health care, do away with insurance scam, and get ridiculous cost of pharmacutical scam much lower, then we have taken care of tome of the hightest cost.

Humanity has so much of systems on ass-backwards creating unnecessary costs. Its an inherently self-inflating system that has no concern for the ecological environment that sustains us all.

The free market is rigged against do those necessary things for humanity to survive i.e. profit as primary concern is butt-backwards.

Unnecessary rich is butt-backwards.



--> @mustardness
I think the $100,000.00 a year was for a married couple with 3 kids, a nice house, yearly family vacations, college tuition for the kids and savings for a comfortable retirement.  Also known as, "the American Dream".
--> @3RU7AL
I think the $100,000.00 a year was for a married couple with 3 kids, a nice house, yearly family vacations, college tuition for the kids and savings for a comfortable retirement.  Also known as, "the American Dream".
Ok, that does help to explain.

..."The median annual household income worldwide is $9,733, and the median per-capita household income is $2,920, according to new Gallup metrics.".....

Bru7al, what is the differrence between" household income" and "median per-capita"? Is that a couple vs a single person?

I.. women make less than $2,920 and men make more than $2,920 ergo the average between those two?



--> @mustardness
What is the differrence between"median household income" and "median per-capita"?
Median household income would be the midpoint (not the average) between the minimum and maximum income per house (or apartment or shack) regardless of how many people are living together.

Median per-capita income would be the midpoint (not the average) between the minimum and maximum income per (presumably working age) individuals regardless of age race or gender.
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--> @Greyparrot
Reality = The divide by rich and poor continues to rise. Quick, build more concrete walls [ |||||||||||||| ]  to keep out the poor.

I don't think this can be quantified, yet I feel this statement gets to the real issues people are appealing to remedy within their community when they mistakenly reference some percentage which is not actually indicative of societal well being and economic mobility.
  
This is not to say that income inequality cannot be an integral aspect of economic insanity in certain respects.  For just one example, we Americans are apparently held liable to money making entities that are considered by many "too big to fail".  This is not something I would allude to as a mutually beneficial relationship between compatriots.
--> @mustardness
Since none of us dip shit Americans know the rest of the world exist then no foreigner has to worry about us taking their jobs.
False. Its not that USA citizens dont know the rest of humanity exists, its just they could and do, care less about those countries peoples and more so, if those people are not of the same skin color or Christian pr etc....

Totally understandable, to a degree. Best to care for self first and then when have better ability to care about or for others.

USA is primarily wealthy 1st world country, that is backwards in that it has the abilitiy{ wealth an skills } to meet all of its citizens needs but chooses not to do that. 

We have a humanity that has the weal th and skills to meet all humanities needs, if their existed the unified agreement to choose to do so.

The United States of America is more of a globalist design of government than most countries.  Although its structure is admittedly less developed perhaps the most analogous situation available would be how you wouldn't expect people to say in terms of social services in this case, that the EU, comprising of 28 (nation) states is failing to meet the needs of Europeans in certain respects unless influential people are rationalizing and making an attempt to consolidate power in the higher level of government.  According to the manner in which the United States is conceived, the federal government and the state government are supposed to be designated in such a manner that they balance each other out in various respects.  The 50 states predominantly handle their social services where as the federal government is comprised by a binding constitution (which provides additional guard to certain rights) and operates predominantly in matters of national security, international policy, and interstate commerce.  If this relationship is not maintained, it would be difficult for a system of government in which the power is justly derived by consent of the people to persist through the challenges faced over successive generations.  
--> @Snoopy
Too big to fail is a dysfunction of government supported monopolies.
--> @Snoopy
The United States of America is more of a globalist design of government than most countries.

USA Civil War Caucasians against Caucasians
..."The South wished to take slavery into the western territories, while the North was committed to keeping them open to white labor alone."...

USA melting pot ex Chinese labors { Chinks } build first railroads in USA. Yes?
Then came the Irish next. Yes?

USA corporations have always been involve globally. Yes?
USA did not want to get involved with Britain { Caucasian } and Germany{ Caucasian } war. Yes?

Then Pearl Harbor happened and USA got more involved globally. Yes?
And USA has been more involved globally since that time ex in rebuilding Europe { cacasian nations }. Yes?

United Nations { Caucasians primarily } initiated.  Yes?
USA blacks soldiers came back home to Caucasian imposed racism. Yes?

USA has not integrated poor Carribean countries into their fold. Yes?
And those they have integrated fall short of support ex Puerto Rico most recently. Yes?

USA president currently wanting to shut the southern border completely. Yes?

So I repeat:

..."USA is primarily wealthy 1st world country, that is backwards in that it has the ability{ wealth an skills } to meet all of its citizens needs but chooses not to do that. 

...We { humanity }  have  the wealth and the skills to meet all humanities basic rudimentary needs, --based on current systems of operation---   if their existed the unified agreement to choose to do so."....

Spirituality is beyond economics or as my alcoholic, quasi-Christian Scientist mother would often say,

...."where there is { exists } a will { spirit-of-intent }, there is a way"....

Thank you mom for the pearls of wisdom you passed on.

They CallMe Gem
.......Mustard....
 
perhaps adiamond in the dip
castingRubies onto the road
pearls fromthe sea
silica outof quartz
cyrstalinetears
proteinbells
photo-pops
pie in thesky?
 
or,
 
a sandstonehumus
combing myterra-cognitive
loosening thepebbles in my brain
absorbingthe fungus among-us
feasting onmoonlit vegetation
bathing inthe algae and bacteria
I liquefyand evaporate,
towardscosmic heaven.

Utopia or Oblivion,  for all human kind
Or so Fuller stated, in 1969.

..."British TV viewers may not realize that Buckminster Fuller was the subject of the very first science programme on BBC2, broadcast in April, 1964. He recalls this here amongst a torrent of reminiscences, reckonings and predictions, composing a brilliant, compressed guide to his ideas.".....


--> @mustardness
I think your historical generalizations are agreeable, but the sitting president is pro immigration and pro border security, with priority to national security in his jurisdiction of duty over foreign nationals.  The civil war involved a minority of freedom fighters (in the sense of economic exploitation) as well other movements during the tumultuous times, and while I would say it was primed with great significance on differences on how to handle the southern slave population, it was primarily fought through from the perspective of the union cause, and the confederate cause.  I'm unsure of why caucasion, chinks, etc... is mentioned in your reply and what significance that is meant to convey.
--> @Snoopy
I'm unsure of why caucasion, chinks, etc... is mentioned in your reply and what significance that is meant to convey.
Because racism and sexism is a roadblock ---bump in the road---   to humanities attainment of Utopia.



--> @mustardness
In all honesty, Utopia is not attainable by humanity alone.  Such a thing could be a gift that can only be derived from the love of God, not something we deserve in our own right.  If that is not our utmost priority by virtue, than I can wholeheartedly agree that we as a people are backwards and encumber our progress towards a more perfect way of living, and it should be no wonder that people abide by the peculiar notions in vain pursuits, and self righteous glory.  
--> @Snoopy
Such a thing could be a gift that can only be derived from the love of God, not something we deserve in our own right. 
Or as Fuller states, there is no gurrantees humanity will past the test --final exam--   to remain a viable entity set on Earth.

...."‘There is no energy shortage,’ Bucky says. ‘There is no energy crisis. There is a crisis of ignorance.’"....